I also prefer head to head or some goal measurement, but I am not opposed to rewarding wins twice, and using them as a primary tie-breaker (to make draws in the regular season even less helpful than they are as 1/3 of the value of a win).
The NHL goes with "most wins" as the first tiebreaker. Though they still have a horrific 2-1 +1 points system. The "bonus point" or "three point game" is really annoying.
At least the NHL excludes shootout wins from the total wins used to break ties. So there is a premium on winning the game in the run of play. I've been ranting about that hockey point system for years. The AHL uses the same system. It's ridiculous that when division rivals are playing that you are mostly rooting for regulation wins. You don't care who wins, just no overtime. Overtime bonus points kill you. I would much rather see 3 points up for grabs every game. 3 points for a regulation win, 2 points for an overtime or shootout win, and 1 point for an overtime or shootout loss. Every game should have the same number of points available.
After finishing 9th in the East one year, Paul Maurice said that the Hurricanes didn't lose enough overtime games.
I'm gonna guess that you love the rumored Mexican league point system of 0 points for a 0-0 draw, 1 each for a 1-1 draw and 2 each for a 2-2 and above draw then...
If MLS really wanted to encourage goals, they should scrap the point system and go to a goals-scored system for standings. You get a point in the standing for every goal scored, or something like that. (Before everyone crucifies me, I am only saying this in (partial) jest!)
If anyone wants to 1) fill a couple hours 2) learn the NASL-MLS history of professional soccer in the U.S. 3) really appreciate what MLS has become You should go to David Litterer's site and read the yearly pages (change the year in the URL one by one). The various point systems alone are mindboggling. This is a good start. Just increment the year and refresh: http://homepages.sover.net/~spectrum/year/1981.html EDIT: My first professional game as a spectator came that year as my dad and I attended the ASL championship game in Charlotte.
In all fairness, soccer effectively does that as well. It's more stupid in hockey because encourages teams not to try and win in regulation.
And we can't forget about that exciting race between VAN and MTL as they both seek to avoid TFC in the Canadian Championship 2013 semifinals. http://www.concacaf.com/page/CL/NewsDetail/0,,12813~2930050,00.html
Hmmm. Not sure I agree with that. In hockey you still want to win in regulation because that denies the other team any points at all. Hockey gives the "bonus point" for getting the game to overtime. Soccer gives the bonus point for winning. I like that much better. In soccer I'm rooting for rivals to tie because that denies both teams points. It just seems dumb for a tie in hockey to hurt a third team in the standings.
That sport/league that's being locked out to allow for MLS to get a few more late-season game on NBCSN in Oct 2012.
Yes, you'd love to win every game in regular time. But would you risk giving up a goal by say playing more offensively in regular time to get that. Also, if the team is not in your conference, you don't even have that reason. Hocky would be much better off with some type of 3-2-1-0 system which eliminated the bonus point element. But yes, I agree, soccer's incentive system at least encourages you to win. Though, I personally, would prefer if soccer did something like 5-2-0 system.
Related Article: http://www.ussoccerplayers.com/usso...ion-posted-6a00e54eea3d1c8834017ee4687a46970d Given that the K.C. (USOC) & S.J. (SS) have already qualified, the chase for potential CCL spots via regular season placings are still very much alive...
I would pick N.Y. or L.A. to see Henry/Beckham gun for Champions League Victories on more than one continents!! (Has this ever been done before?)
It's amazing that venue's toilets still flush at all. And yes, playing midweek CCL matches in 2013 at RFK likely wouldn't be a great fit for their business/operations. (Would United be able to play at the MD Soccerplex, or does that venue not meet CONCACAF requirements?) But looking at the rest of 2012, does United rent "per game" or do they have a flat annual lease agreement with Events DC? Is United actually losing money by playing post-season games (and selling tickets) in RFK? (Or are they just not making "as much" money as they could/would be making were they already playing in a new modern stadium they controlled and to which they could bring in the "corporate box" dollars in addition to individual seat revenue?) If United hosts MLS Cup 2012 and opens up the upper seating deck of RFK stadium, would that be a money-making exercise for United/MLS? Outside of Seattle's NFL/shared venue, what other possible MLS Cup-hosting venues could (potentially) sell 30,000+ tickets for a Dec. 1, 2012 match?
Stanford Stadium or the Oakland Coliseum (San Jose's choices) RFK Stadium (DC United) Home Depot Center (Los Angeles Galaxy when they open up the hillside - announced attendance would still be 27,000, but full capacity is right at 30k) BC Place (Vancouver Whitecaps) I believe that's the current list of teams other than Seattle that either play in venues that can hold 30k, or would have to play in an alternate venue if they host MLS Cup this year. Of non-playoff teams, Chivas USA and New England Revolution would also be on the list. Once San Jose moves out of Buck Shaw, they would drop off of the list.
Nice list. Thanks. Although VAN can't host MLS Cup 2012, as all Eastern qualified teams will finish with more points. (As will certainly one or potentially two non-qualified Eastern teams, but that's a separate discussion.) And I thought the push by SJ would be (or is, if they're playing on 12/1) to host in the friendly confines of Buck Shaw. Would the league allow that?
Tried to google for related info on this but couldn't locate anything much, hence just drawing up a list of players to the best of my knowledge (and by no means exhaustive), who may potentially win Champions Leagues in more than one federations: David Beckham (MLS: L.A. Galaxy): UEFA Champions League 1998-99; gunning for CONCACAF Champions League? Thierry Henry (MLS: N.Y. Red Bulls): UEFA Champions League 2008-09; gunning for CONCACAF Champions League? Alessandro Nesta (MLS: Montreal Impact): UEFA Champions League 2002-03, 2006-07; gunning for CONCACAF Champions League? Rafael Márquez (MLS: N.Y. Red Bulls): UEFA Champions League 2005-06, 2008-09; gunning for CONCACAF Champions League? Alessandro Del Piero (A-League: Sydney FC): UEFA Champions League 1995-96; gunning for Asian Champions League? Nicholas Anelka (CSL: Shanghai Shenhua): UEFA Champions League 1999-00; gunning for Asian Champions League? Didier Drogba (CSL: Shanghai Shenhua): UEFA Champions League 2011-12; gunning for Asian Champions League? Feel free to add on...