And we'd have won the league too, if it wasn't for those meddling billionaires - OTT [R]

Rood one, Raggy!

 

ROR

 

Steven Gerrard, football martyr.

 

Europa League action. Napoli vs. PSV later.

 

really good thread title.

 

They only missed out on the league by 4 points in 2009.

While their Champions League win came too shortly after Abramovich's tenure to really count in this argument, they also reached a second final and were kept from a third by an Extra Time goal (by Chelsea of course) within this timeframe.

I've argued often with Liverpool fans that even given their commercial stagnation, they've had enough money to at least compete, even if being an outright favourite was slightly beyond their reach.

 

Liverpool outspent us (wages+transfers) for a large chunk of the 90s.

Given their underachievement both on and off the field in that period, it is only to be expected that they shouldn't be able to compete with richer clubs.

 

Yep.

That's what I'm saying: any failures they've had in the past twenty years, have more to do with them than anything their competitors did.

 

That is discounting everything SAF has done.

 

I'm sorry, I just saw Stevie G's quote.

Brilliant.

 

Sure, if you choose to take a basic statement and extrapolate it to it's most exaggerated possible implication.

However, we're not talking about United's success, which was started and maintained by the central figure of SAF and has seen team after team built and has challenged all comers. A stronger Liverpool would not have altered that process.

None of this has anything to do with the fact that whatever else has happened, Liverpool haven't been where they frankly could and should have been. They haven't mounted anything close to the number of legitimate title challenges that a club of their stature, resources and fanbase should.

Says **************-all about Fergie though, who has proven himself enough by building United back into Champions and going head-to-head with some very strong teams and managers (not to mention those billionaires that "Stevie G" is whining about).

 

Why would we want a third striker who (with all due respect) is inferior to our current options ,when we are struggling to keep Benzema and Higuain happy with their level of playing time?

 

Mexican tv rights negetotiation.

Easier personality to keep on the bench.



Havent said that, for the reasons above, I wouldn't sell him.

 

Wow. when did Starfish say that?

 

Check the English thread a few pages back.

 

Isn't he dreamy? He's like a black version of this guy from The Mummy:

 

Can't see ashley playing for England anytime soon....