Confirmed Transfers 2012/13 Thread (aka the mesh shirts gets Kensington excited thread)

Discussion in 'Juventus' started by DaveyGorgeous, Jun 12, 2012.

  1. DaveyGorgeous

    DaveyGorgeous Member+

    Jul 6, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    So, by your metric, Borriello is superior to Cavani because Borriello won the Scudetto last year but Cavani didn't? Is that what you are saying??
     
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  2. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    What I am saying is that bringing Cavani does nothing to improve us. You imply that he is the missing link for our side. Bring Cavani and the scudetto is in the bag and we are a serious threat in the CL. But what clutch performance has anyone seen from Cavani that has brought silverware to his sides? It did not happen last weekend. It did not happen in the Olympics. Napoli had the advantage over Chelsea in the CL quarterfinals. That clutch performance thrusted Napoli to win the whole thing. He is a complimentary player. We have plenty on our roster who fill that role.
     
  3. Dante

    Dante Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cavani is better than Matri, Boakye, Giovinco, Quagliarella and Vucinic. He would improve this side. And let's not forget that he tracks back and defends, something that fits into Conte's system.

    You keep talking about what he won this past year, or rather hasn't, yet you consistently forget that they beat us for the Coppa Italia.

    Lastly, he's more than a complimentary player, if you think he's complimentary then wtf is Giovinco?
     
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  4. DaveyGorgeous

    DaveyGorgeous Member+

    Jul 6, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I'll stop you right here because this is totally incorrect. I do not say he is the missing link or he will bring us the CL. I recognize this is a team sport. However, I do think Cavani will upgrade our CF position and will help us in our continued push for the CL.
     
  5. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    The thing is that I don't want to hear all the whining that will come around here that Cavani is a crap player and we wasted too much money on him and Marotta is only able to sell him for 5.5 million.
     
  6. DaveyGorgeous

    DaveyGorgeous Member+

    Jul 6, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    If he came and disappointed, and we wanted to sell and Marotta only was able to sell him for 5.5M, then that's on Marotta.
     
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  7. Bianconeri13

    Bianconeri13 Member

    Dec 21, 2010
    Anaheim, CA
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    cavani is the best striker in serie A heading into this season, and he would greatly improve our offense, i don't know how someone could say different. he has more skill than matri simple as that. and he doesn't supplement a lack of tracking back with better offense, he could do what matri does and then be better in front of goal. he WOULD be an upgrade, he WOULD make us better, i really didn't think that would be debatable.

    matri is a nice player, i like the man, but there are much better out there. if we got one of those better players, it would make us better. some players go disappearing for games, matri goes disappearing for months. we are the class of serie A at the moment, but we have at best only the 4th best striker (cavani, klose, milito). if we want prolonged success and success in CL , that just won't cut it. adp isn't here to save our backs anymore, it's time to reinforce.
     
  8. Daei_10

    Daei_10 Member+

    Aug 22, 2007
    LA, California
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    if cavani was this amazing player u guys think he is, Napoli would be in CL right now

    but instead you have a team like UDINESE
     
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  9. Bianconeri13

    Bianconeri13 Member

    Dec 21, 2010
    Anaheim, CA
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    one man can't carry a team. he did his job of scoring goals, they just have a woeful group of defenders and not the sharpest manager.
     
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  10. Bianconeri13

    Bianconeri13 Member

    Dec 21, 2010
    Anaheim, CA
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    we had two straight 7th place finishes with adp on the team, does that mean he was not a WC player? ;)
     
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  11. Daei_10

    Daei_10 Member+

    Aug 22, 2007
    LA, California
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    thats different, adp was at the end of his career while cavani is in prime. and our team sucked where as napoli was supposed to be good, they did good in CL til chelsea so its not like they had a bad team.
     
  12. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    I rate Matri better than Cavani. Matri was a thorn on our side when he was a Cagliari. That play last season when he connected with Quagliarella showed his quality. His off the ball movement is excellent. If he had logged in enough playing time as Vucinic, he would have scored 18 goals last season.
     
  13. Bianconeri13

    Bianconeri13 Member

    Dec 21, 2010
    Anaheim, CA
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    ha i know it wasn't a fair comparison ;) but someone like chiellini you could say has been in his prime in these years
     
  14. Daei_10

    Daei_10 Member+

    Aug 22, 2007
    LA, California
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He has the capability of being top scorer with the right team. I think if we get rid of him it'll bite us in the ass...if he goes to teams like milan, roma, napoli and them he would be scoring lots. People are just way too impatient these days.
     
  15. Bianconeri13

    Bianconeri13 Member

    Dec 21, 2010
    Anaheim, CA
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    and cavani isn't? member the hat trick against us? or the goal in the supercoppa? or the coppa?
    those two players aren't even comparable

    if we pin the results of the team on one player, then cavani's napoli has been a hell of a lot more successful than matri's cagliari was. cavani crushes matri in any comparison possible.

    that is not to say that matri is bad, but is he deserved of leading the line at a scudetto winner CL competitor? nope.
     
  16. Bianconeri13

    Bianconeri13 Member

    Dec 21, 2010
    Anaheim, CA
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    where is he gonna play with talent like juve? he's getting service from pirlo marchisio vidal! even being set up by vucinic!

    he played on the team with the most scoring chances in serie A last year!
     
  17. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    I think most of those scoring chances were blown by Vucinic.
     
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  18. KensingtonSC

    KensingtonSC Still Lazy After All These Years

    FC Vaduz / Philadelphia Union
    Jan 7, 2010
    Andalusia, PA
    Club:
    FC Vaduz
    So it's Conte's fault that partnership never happened? If Matri is this great player that people make him out to be, why was he benched for most of the second half? Don't get me wrong. I like the guy, but to say he's better than Cavani is just flat out wrong. Would Cavani have been benched half way through last season and left to rot on the bench? With his numbers? I don't think so.
     
  19. KensingtonSC

    KensingtonSC Still Lazy After All These Years

    FC Vaduz / Philadelphia Union
    Jan 7, 2010
    Andalusia, PA
    Club:
    FC Vaduz
    Who said we should sell him? I can't find a single person who said we should sell him. He should be a solid backup to a significantly better striker.
     
  20. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Probably. No one has figured out Conte yet. Can anyone explain why Vucinic was not benched? Why Boriello played? Who scored two big goals against Milan in that important match?
     
  21. Northern Juventino

    May 25, 2011
    Toronto
    Club:
    Juventus FC
  22. juventino13

    juventino13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2005
    Caribbean
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    There's a certain ex Napoli player that would like to talk to you about that...
     
  23. Dante

    Dante Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Zidane, Delpi, Deschamps all in their prime... Playing in the Intertoto because of a poor finish the season before.

    There goes your argument.
     
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  24. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    I am not sure if Del Piero played. Was not the poor season due to his knee injury? And did Deschamps already leave for Chelsea?
     
  25. phat

    phat Viking

    Feb 13, 2006
    Montreal
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    First of all. Cavani is the only CF in the team who play all behind him in a counter attack. His performance at Palermo who played a different style and where he was the main striker in his last 1-2 seasons was nothing more then average for Serie A.

    He's not worth 100m or 50m and I wouldn't pay more then 25-30m for him mainly just cause I don't think players are worth that much and that's a stretch.

    I also can guarantee he won't score as many goals with our squad because of the rotation/competition for spots. But more importantly in our system Cavani will most likely simply draw more attention from oppositions and other guys will score.

    I would pay a good amount of money for a guy that could take on defenses and score clutch goals. There's very few I can think of and who would be available.
     
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