Mexico vs USA August 15 @ Azteca

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  1. PARS

    PARS Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 3, 2007
    Austin, TX
    Club:
    CF Rayados de Monterrey
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Up their a.... ;-)

    /p
     
  2. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think he could sneak in to some friendlies if he committed 100% to Germany only because they are relatively thin at the fullback spot.
     
  3. Ironkick14

    Ironkick14 Member+

    Sep 29, 2011
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep, you read my post correctly. Congratulations. To beat Mexico, we are going to need to possession in an advanced position on the field. To keep possession in an advanced position, a striker who can hold up the ball is necessary. Gomez cannot do that, therefore Boyd is better for the situation at hand. It has nothing to do with experience, league, or statistics. Just playing style.
     
  4. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Torres will help with possession, what we need are goals.
     
  5. Werdman89

    Werdman89 Member+

    May 27, 2008
    Boston, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not so sure about that, he may play for Brazil




    I keed, I keed
     
  6. soccerusa517

    soccerusa517 Member+

    Jun 23, 2009
    Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    These might have been posted by someone already, but just in case...



     
  7. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    So with no Boca, is Howard the captain?
     
  8. nicklaino

    nicklaino Member+

    Feb 14, 2012
    Brooklyn, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    A keeper generally does not make a good captain. He is too far from the run of play over all. Plus they have a natural tendency to try to keep their backs to close to them even when they should be attacking. A midfielder is better for that generally.
     
  9. ScrappytheSeal4

    Jun 5, 2010
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sarcasm?
     
  10. Spursfan1

    Spursfan1 Member+

    Sep 7, 2010
    Atlanta
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    like the italians with buffon who went to the euro final. what a horrible captain.

    or when iker casillas captained over some of the greatest midfielders in the world on spain to a world cup final win.
     
  11. nicklaino

    nicklaino Member+

    Feb 14, 2012
    Brooklyn, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    When did the US National team arrive in Mexico? To get used to the high altitude they should have been training in it for a month. Maybe they trained somewhere else in the US in high altitude. But did it have the dirty air that they have in Azteca? If not they did not train to win. But when you play a lot of inexperienced players your not there to win. Put one or two players in with your starters they may all look pretty good which is great for the confidence of those new players. Put a lot of inexperienced players in at the same time they will look bad. It will not help the confidence of those players and they will lose ugly.
     
  12. nicklaino

    nicklaino Member+

    Feb 14, 2012
    Brooklyn, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I made my post from experience. Maybe they had more then one captain who did not wear the arm band. But he was there directing the team as a coach would, but was on the field.
     
  13. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think Howard is closer to Buffon than Casillas.
     
    always sunny repped this.
  14. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    6 of our players already play in Mexico.
     
  15. nicklaino

    nicklaino Member+

    Feb 14, 2012
    Brooklyn, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    That's good are they starters? How many Mexican national team players play in Mexico?
     
  16. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All 6 start for their respective clubs but only 3 are expected to start for today's game. I think 13 players of Mexico's team play in Mexico. Holy shit, I just saw that Guardado is now with Valencia CF!:eek: He is a good player but I f*cking hate that he plays for Mexico.
     
  17. nicklaino

    nicklaino Member+

    Feb 14, 2012
    Brooklyn, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    They better all start for their clubs. But only three used to the conditions is not very good. I don't think Klinesman really get's the importance of this so called friendly game. It is very important to the Mexican players and to their fans and to their coach. Anyone think if the unthinkable happens and Mexico loses to the US and lost by more then 1 goal. Pretty sure that coach is gone if that happens or left being coach by a thread. So it is not a friendly game to them and it sghould not be to us either. Landon I am sure gets it
     
  18. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think we've ever started more than 1 player at the Azteca, who is based in Mexico, in our entire history.
     
  19. ...In my defense

    Feb 11, 2006
    LOL uhhh no
     
  20. diegolin89

    diegolin89 Member+

    Jul 13, 2008
    Lol, stop sniffing glue, everyone knows thats impossible, I mean both things are impossible. Like really really impossible. It is beyond unthinkable so don't even think about it.
     
  21. Heist

    Heist Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A month? You do know that this is a one-off fixture date, right and these guys have either been with their teams or on a break over the course of the past month.
    Also, and this is a serious question, how many of the Mexican players are used to playing in altitude and smog on a regular basis? The ones who play overseas might come back to Azteca for the odd friendly or qualifier, but it seems like for a game like this the altitude and smog might be less of a factor overall. Not to say that the US has a realistic chance of winning of course. I expect a 2-goal loss. Anything better than that will be a pleasant surprise given our roster and the conditions.
     
  22. Papin

    Papin BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 19, 1998
    le côté obscur
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    or chilavert... or kahn...
     
  23. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Things change. Mexico doesn't have as much of an advantage with 3 of our starters already playing in Mexico.
     
  24. diegolin89

    diegolin89 Member+

    Jul 13, 2008
    That is true, actually.

    The gap between us is not that wide so Mexico can't win by 3 or more goals, but it is not that good for USA so USA can't win today, sorry.
     
  25. kool-aide

    kool-aide Member+

    Feb 1, 2002
    a van by the river
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Or Villar... Or Zoff ... or Shilton ... Or Yashin.


    As for the game. Yeah, I don't see us winning. A 0-2 loss where we got a couple of good chances wouldn't be terrible. I just hope we don't receive a beat down.
     

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