Santos Futebol Clube, Parte IV [R]

Discussion in 'Brazil: Clubs and Competitions' started by Bakaman, Aug 6, 2012.

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  1. Bakaman

    Bakaman Member

    May 8, 2008
    São Paulo, Brazil
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Of course we do. It's just that our board sucks so much at transfers, we have no choice other than to rely on Neymar. We've knew since 2010 that we would be without Neymar and Ganso during Olympics, yet we still didn't prepare well enough to maintain a respectable performance without them.

    I suppose the injuries were also a heavy blow I guess, we must be jinxed. o_O
     
  2. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    on top of that he doesn't arrive back to Santos till after the Sweden friendly.
     
  3. Bakaman

    Bakaman Member

    May 8, 2008
    São Paulo, Brazil
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Correct. Otherwise he would be back against Figueirense.
     
  4. Bakaman

    Bakaman Member

    May 8, 2008
    São Paulo, Brazil
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Wait... We won?! We scored FOUR TIMES IN ONE MATCH!? BILL SCORED?!?!?


    "Right now, pigs are flying, majestic and free, over the icy depths of Hell."

    :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
     
  5. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Celso Roth has a knack for reviving times. It must have hurt seeing Borges score.
     
  6. Socratinho

    Socratinho Member

    Jun 3, 2009
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Don't forget Durval!

    Really liked the balance of the midfield tonight. It greatly improved our saida de bola. Arouca with the running, Adriano with the (over-aggressive and often stupid) tackling, and Leandrinho with the passing. Perfect. Felipe Anderson finally showed the ability to stop running to unbalance a defender. It did wonders.

    The defense seems to be getting worse though. Tweedle-dee and Tweedle-dum (a.k.a Rodrigo and Durval) nearly gave me a couple of heart attacks. Peres didn't cover himself in glory either.

    Kinda. I was more angry to see no-one marking him to be honest. Didn't even really register that he celebrated until the halftime replay of the goal.
     
  7. Muurad

    Muurad Member

    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    Santos FC
    It's games like these that make me such a believer of Felipe Anderson.

    He's not consistent, and still need to mature as a player and physically aswell - but this kid just shows some fantastic flashes of ability.

    I just hope for his sake he doesn't accept the big money from Russia, cause like Alan Patrick(anyone even heard about him since?) - it will come very shortly in my opinion, cause Felipe imo is a better player and prospect then AP.

    He just needs to find a way to consistently show what he's capable of, and not bring it in small dozes and flashes. But to his credit he is still very young, and you can clearly see the improvement in him with every year since he's in the first team.

    Right now he's thrown into the deep waters to be "the man" - and some games like this one and the one a few weeks ago against Gremio.. but when Neymar will come and Felipe will hopefully continue to get full credit in the lineup, he can really cement his place and improve more in my opinion.
     
  8. Chicago Hawkeye

    Jun 30, 2012
    Chicago, IL, USA
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Crazy that 2 of last night's goal scorers were born in 1993 and 1995.
     
  9. Bakaman

    Bakaman Member

    May 8, 2008
    São Paulo, Brazil
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Yeah well I'm getting quite excited about Victor Andrade. He commits a lot of mistakes for sure, but damn he is SIXTEEN. Such a young player, but he is performing pretty well playing for a professional team of our caliber in such a bad spell of form, with such pressure involved... Lots of talent there... Then you take in consideration that we also have Vitor Hugo, Lucas Otavio, Gustavo, Jubal, Leandrinho (who played pretty well yesterday), Gabigol in our youth ranks... In two~three years we will have one hell of a exciting team :D
     
  10. Chicago Hawkeye

    Jun 30, 2012
    Chicago, IL, USA
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was going to ask what kind of player people think Victor Andrade can develop into. It's insane that a 16 year old is playing meaningful minutes in a league of this caliber.
     
  11. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    it's a byproduct of not having the adequate depth.
     
  12. Chicago Hawkeye

    Jun 30, 2012
    Chicago, IL, USA
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unfortunately true.
     
  13. Muurad

    Muurad Member

    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    Santos FC
    TBH, other then speed I haven't seen much to be really impressed by Andrade, not in the couple of Copinha games I saw aswell.

    Again, 16 like Baka said is a ridiculously young age and theres plenty of time to develop - but so far I don't see much from the hype he had on him prior.

    Otavio is a kid who should come up the rank - I guess his build is the only thing keeping him away from a squad call-up right now, probably rightfully so tbh.
     
  14. Bakaman

    Bakaman Member

    May 8, 2008
    São Paulo, Brazil
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
  15. Bakaman

    Bakaman Member

    May 8, 2008
    São Paulo, Brazil
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    We just signed André (yup the one from our youth teams, who played for us in 2010), out of nowhere :eek: I'm not very sure on the conditions, but it seems we've payed 2M euros for 25% of his rights, yet it's still a loan until the end of 2013! More information as soon as I get them!

    NO MORE BILL!

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    EDIT: Oh and it seems like we sold Ganso... WAIT WHAT o_O ?!? Calm down let's see how much of that is true, he ahs been sold multiple times already and none of those news were true... :confused: The heck is happening today...
     
  16. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    Should've never let him go in the first place.. waste of cash imo, he hasn't been the same since.
     
  17. Bakaman

    Bakaman Member

    May 8, 2008
    São Paulo, Brazil
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I kinda agree, but he really wanted to leave... dumb decision. We didn't lose money though, since we sold 100% of him for 8M euros, now we bought 25% for 2M, same price.


    And Patito is set to debut in the next game. Oh God may this be a sudden spell of good luck for us, we certainly need it!
     
  18. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    25%.. lol and if he performs.. your gonna want all 100...
     
  19. Bakaman

    Bakaman Member

    May 8, 2008
    São Paulo, Brazil
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    About the Ganso rumour, Radio Cultura affirms that Ganso will go to Atletico MG, maybe involved somewhat with this André transfer. I'm not buying it.
     
  20. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I never wanted Andre at Fla, but I think he's a good fit for Santos. Seems to make a good pairing with Neymar.

    Ganso to Galo? I haven't read anything on that yet, but where the hell is Galo getting this money from? They are going to play Ganso, Bernard and R49 on the field at the same time? Imagine the laziness on the field (Ganso and R49). What about Sonda's portion of the rights?
     
  21. Socratinho

    Socratinho Member

    Jun 3, 2009
    Club:
    Santos FC
    I read Aletico-MG wants 14 millions Euros for the rest of Andre's registration. :ROFLMAO: Kalil must be mad. Great signing, even though the part we did buy was too expensive.
     
  22. Bakaman

    Bakaman Member

    May 8, 2008
    São Paulo, Brazil
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    This Ganso to Galo transfer must be bs. Can't be true.
     
  23. NotreDameFlamengo

    Jul 25, 2011
    Raleigh, NC
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Is there a number floating around for Ganso's transfer fee? A realistic one, not the quoted by Santos' pres.
     
  24. Chicago Hawkeye

    Jun 30, 2012
    Chicago, IL, USA
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  25. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    The story above ended up being real and he helped you guys to victory.
     

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