I'm not denying what you're saying, or that Fortune is right leaning, but the reality is that any time any member of the media attacks a Republican viewpoint, they are dismissed by Republicans as being part of the liberal media.
Probably why the program was shiit-canned back in 2007. Newsflash: we are now talking about Fast and Furious.
I'm seeing comparisons that the Colorado fires are turning into "Obama's Katrina" Any thoughts on this?
Annual Western Wildfires, particularly in California, have their causes in extremely poor land use & development practices and policies over the last 50 years, as well as water policy and agricultural policy that allows farming in the ********ing desert.
Nice try. You're the one who tried (and failed) to argue that the Bush program was much different, and you're the one who posted a nutjob video that compares Holder and Obama to Bond villians. I don't think anyone is arguing that F&F was a great idea or that it was carried out well. But the nutjob NRA theory, which you seem to have bought based on what you've posted, falls apart when it's pointed out that ATF ran a similar program, also poorly carried out, during the Bush admin. That's why the NRA and useful idiots like you are bending over backwards to argue that Wide Receiver was so different.
Yeah that's gotta be Fox because it makes no sense at all. The Colorado fires ain't nothing in the grand scheme of things.
I am just starting to read up on this, but wouldn't a legitamite argument be that the whole "this is the same as what the bush administration did" is really just a "cover up line" an in fact it is the difference between what this administration did and what the Bush administration did would be apparent in the documents that Holder is refusing to release? Unfortunately it is a chicken and an egg thing. One side says you are hiding the documents to cover for the political implications that they contain, and the other says you are only asking for the documents for political reasons. The only real solution is to come up with a compromise that makes the documents available, citing extensive executive priviledge never works. As I understand it, the reason the pro gun people are concerned about this operation is because they think that the people in the Obama administration were actually trying to use the program for political reasons that the Bush administarion would not have been doing. While the original, if misguided, idea of the Bush administration might have been to help develop stronger conspiracy cases against cartels, they believe the "secret" Obama administration intent was to discredit the state of Arizona's weak gun laws. The thought was that the Obama administration was trying to make Arizona "look bad" buy purposefully allowing guns sold in Arizona to end up in the hands of criminals so that when the criminals use them they can point to Arizona and say, "see you need to toughen up your gun laws".
Actually it was all a double bluff. Obama tricked the pro-gun people into thinking that so that everyone would realise they were a bunch of nutters as they tried to prove the 'secret conspiracy'
The FBI, the Cia, and th mob all conspiring to kill the president, or a backroom studio faking the moon landing are awsome.. the fact that some bureaucrats would suggest turning a blind eye to some criminals buying guns, because they were frustrated with weak gun laws.... kinda boring.
When an 18yo can walk into a gun shop, buy 50 AK-47s, and hand them off to someone in the parking lot, all while the ATF watches and can do nothing about it, Arizona does need to tighten up its gun laws.
Colorado Springs, of course, is a bastion of anti-tax, limited government sentiments. Maybe they should be taking this opportunity to show that they don't need any help from the US taxpayer, and can fight their fires through individual initiative and the magic of market forces.