Post-match: USA vs. Antigua & Barbuda: the attack

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Scotty, Jun 8, 2012.

  1. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
    Discuss.
     
  2. (TxT)

    (TxT) Member+

    Jun 9, 2004
    Tampa, FL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Donovan needs to pull the trigger more instead of trying to play the perfect pass. Reminds me of the 2006 cycle where we'd take 5 or 6 touches in the box without a taking a shot on goal.
     
  3. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Too cute. Not sharp. Happy for Gomez; I'm very happy he's with the Nats, I've been in his corner literally for years.
     
  4. Skevin

    Skevin Member+

    Aug 9, 2009
    Colorado
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    How about shooting?
     
  5. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    It was funny to see Donovan bitching at Herc for shooting when the right decision WAS shooting, then watching Donovan trying to square a ball across the box when the correct decision was to shoot.

    Unselfish to a fault, and its unsurprising.
     
  6. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Too fancy. Gomez continues to look sharp.
     
  7. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Boyd was atrocious. He really shouldn't see another second with the US until he finally plays a senior match. It's pathetic that he plays for us.
     
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  8. Mr Martin

    Mr Martin Member+

    Jun 12, 2002
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gomez continues to be a bright spot. Altidore was underused. Donovan needs to shoot more. The team in general tried to be too cute with forcing the ball inside the box too much. Antigua's keeper was short and the ball and ground were wet. Take a few 25-30 yard shots.

    There were also a few unlucky bounces, which reminded me of the 1-0 Guadeloupe match at the 2011 Gold Cup.

    Boyd isn't ready, yet. Let him play a year of 1st team ball somewhere, and then bring him into the January camp.
     
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  9. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's still a damn good prospect. He'll make his mark for us at some point. But I do think Jurgen is pushing him into all this too quickly. I'd actually like to see Agudelo get called back in and given a shot now that he's scoring goals again and creating opportunities.
     
  10. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agree with us being too cute. And Donovan was the chief culprit. We turf, shoot the ball low. Gomez was the highlight, unless one counts the Boca move down the sideline and pullback.

    Donovan had his moments, but also had a terrible giveaway, and managed to not only pass (p!SS) away most of our chances, but yelled at Gomez for shooting. Still, not a bad game, just I expect more from him.

    As for Jones playing too high, in this setup, Jones and Bradley are the two attacking mids. When LD or Clint drift back, or central, then it is up to Jones or Bradley to go wide and into that space. I'm fine with Jones being offside. Especially with Dempsey drifting back so much.

    Boyd clearly isn't ready yet, but at least he's capped now. And we are thin at forward. Still, Gomez, Dempsey, Jozy, and LD are all better options up top. If we ever develop some wide options (or JK decides to actually let DMB or Feilhaber play), maybe we could move LD or Clint into a supporting striker role.
     
  11. BimmerBenz95

    BimmerBenz95 Member+

    Feb 24, 2012
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He only played 10 minutes yeah he had a few bad touches but atrocious? There's a lot of geniuses here in BS!
     
  12. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    Not enough movement. Not enough accurate passing. Not enough shooting. When Landon finally decided to get in behind the defense, we scored.
     
  13. Pass-n-Go

    Pass-n-Go Member+

    Jul 5, 2008
    Packed defenses give the US fits.
     
  14. StillKickin

    StillKickin Member+

    Austin FC
    Dec 17, 2002
    Texas
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I must be in an effing twilight zone here.

    People are bitching about Landon? Really? He drove the attack tonight. Without him, we don't score any goals. Yes, he should have shot more, but COME ON! He was the liveliest player out there, along with Herc. He got teammates involved, he drove the team forward. Bradley wouldn't do it; Jones couldn't do it. Dempsey, coming soooooo deep, couldn't do it.

    I'd be complaining more about Dempsey than LD. For a center forward, Dempsey was nowhere to be found. Comes back way, way too deep and not fast enough when we get going to get back in prime position. And yet none of y'all say word one about him. He was our center forward, yet he's not mentioned in the thread titled "Attack"?

    Thankful for Herc. And Bradley had a poor game; dawdled on the ball far too long. I think that's who Klinsi was referring to at halftime, when it was reported he wanted the ball to move faster.

    Boyd came in and played poorly. Jozy came in and was more effective but nothing spectacular.
     
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  15. Berks

    Berks Member+

    Dec 22, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In looking at the ratings from the press, where our attack fell down is the central midfield getting the ball moving (they didn't), and our being cute in the box - and that goes for EVERYONE.

    In general our central midfield is not scoring higher than a 6 - including Bradley, Edu and Jones. Dawdling on the ball and turnovers. (Minus a 7 from ESPN to Edu, which I'm going to say is hallucinatory).

    StillKickin has a point. On average our top 3 has the same score with Herc taking a little higher score for his effort. You going to pick on them for being cute, pick on them all. LD needed to SHOOT, but he was involved in all three goals, and burned A&B all over the field, left, right and centrally. Clint's passing game wasn't the best, and his dribbling in the box frustrating and also too cute, but he had some inventive through balls and his SOG from distance woke us up in the 2nd half. Plus, solid PK. Gomez did made a poor decision to shoot instead of cross early on (irony knowing how the game went), and his crossing in the box and passing game in the final 18 needed work. But his effort and poaching ability in the box was solid and he did all that work all by himself up top.

    One thing of a positive note: LD and CD's chemistry looked like it was back. Can only be good for us. Plus, they both looked like they had chemistry with Gomez.

    Let's be fair folks. The grades from the analysts show a balance between our front 3 and our CMs.
     
  16. usa1950

    usa1950 Member

    Aug 18, 2000
    Indiana USA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dempsey was indeed poor. Bradley and Edu stifled the attack in ways not seen since Armas and ABMOD. Bowels move faster than the ball did in the middle of the pitch tonight.
     
  17. Berks

    Berks Member+

    Dec 22, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You know, I posted in the gamethread that I thought our movement wasn't too bad in the first half (2nd half it indeed went to pot except for the flurry leading to the third goal). In reading everyone's posts I now realize our front 3 movement was ok (shooting on the other hand...), but the central midfield dawdled. You are right, and I admit I was wrong on that one...
     
  18. Cannons

    Cannons Member+

    May 16, 2005
    I have to think the starting forward slot is Herc's to lose. He does so much more than Jozy will ever do.... he's involved with a chance and seconds later, breaks up a play in front of our own net.

    Boyd did not look good but he is cap tied so now he can work on his game
     
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  19. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    It looked strongly to me like they both spent significant stretches of the match playing second striker.
     
  20. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    Agreed. I thought Landon was our best player tonight.
     
  21. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    One thing that I liked about our play tonight is that there was a lot of variety in where the attacking players attacking from. Lots of unpredictability. There were lots of frustrating things about the team's performance. But I loved the way our attack kept changing shape.
     
  22. Berks

    Berks Member+

    Dec 22, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I completely agree with this. The front three interchanged a TON. I loved it. That's why I say their build-up looked good. Up until the 6-8ish. Sigh.
     
  23. UxSxAxfooty

    UxSxAxfooty Member+

    Jan 23, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I appreciate it too. The flip side, however, may be too much unpredictability and not enough structure. We're not so much pulling strings out there as we are feeling around in the dark it seems.
     
  24. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
     
  25. Mr Martin

    Mr Martin Member+

    Jun 12, 2002
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree that Donovan was lively and better than the Canada match. I like that he switched sides at times. He created a lot of opportunities. Just would like him to shoot a bit more. Remember the 1st Slovenia goal at the WC? Ripped that one, even from a poor angle.
     

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