OL Café III [R]

Discussion in 'Olympique Lyonnais' started by guignol, Jun 1, 2011.

  1. ASU55RR

    ASU55RR Member+

    Jul 31, 2004
    Brooklyn, NY/Brno,CZ
    Club:
    FC Zbrojovka Brno
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    Don't we all?
     
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  2. SportBoy333

    SportBoy333 Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    Yeah but people weren't sure if QSI was going to heavily invest in the PSG women's team but I think now we know the answer.
     
  3. guignol

    guignol Moderator
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    Apr 28, 2005
    mermoz-les-boss
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    it's all the worst kind of rumormongering.

    i'm not saying that PSG wouldn't be able to create serious problems for OL ladies if they wanted to, but to start with it's by no means certain they really want to. if they did the attitude of the big club towards the feminine section could have changed already and they would be fighting for the title this year instead of languishing in 4th place a world away from the top three and not even as good as they were last year.

    decryption of this article has to start with the words: "selon le magazine Lyon-Capitale"... a periodical with no knowledge about sports and no real interest in them beyond a perverse vendetta against jean-michel aulas in particular and OL in general.

    the original article ("exclusive"!) cites a vague "source" close to al-khelaifi. the idea of anyone who actually works with al-khelaifi or leonardo spouting off to Lyon-Capitale is not just unlikely, it's absurd; like someone on big soccer claiming to be drogba's cousin giving us all the dirt on how he's going to sign at OM this summer. there are people who run the PSG ladies' section who are perfectly capable of speaking for themselves, and any real policy and communication would come from them. even PSG ladies' real fans know this whole thing is just nonsense. right now they're more worried about keeping some of their own players (boulleau, dali, masar) than stealing any from lyon!

    why the four players mentioned? i think it might simply be they're the only ones the L-C 'journalist" (despite being a local) knows by name. in any case three of them have JUST re-signed: two of them (camille abily and sonia bompastor) already played at PSG during a WPS off-season and if there was any chance of these choosing paris over lyon we wouldn't need Lyon-Capitale to tell us about it, in fact it would probably have been a done deal a long time ago. as concerns SB in particular, she's made it clear that she will play through the 2013 euros and then retire to find things in her life a woman finds great difficulty reconciling with a sporting career at the highest level. the only question mark concerns louisa necib whose loss would be regrettable, but less so than that of 5 or 6 other girls the author probably doesn't even know exist. PSG, not qualified for the champion's league, with a trophy case boasting ONE challenge de france cup, habitually playing in front of a hundred loyal fans against a guard rail instead of 2, 10 or 20 thousand in seats, has nothing to offer the real workhorses at lyon, but would give louisa a guarantee of playing every day, something she doesn't have right now.

    if i seem to be getting worked up it's not a pro-lyon / anti-paris reaction. it's because i would really LOVE to see PSG get their act together and raise the level of women's football in france. but to do that they need to 1) offer more of their infrastructure to the women's team 2) keep the players they have 3) use the bright lights of paris to lure a player or three from abroad, especially from countries like the US or scandinavia where supply presently outstrips demand. that should be enough to get them some CL headway but if all else fails they could 4) try to join forces with juvisy, offering resources and receiving expertise. all of that makes sense.

    but this article does not.
     
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  4. SportBoy333

    SportBoy333 Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
  5. ASU55RR

    ASU55RR Member+

    Jul 31, 2004
    Brooklyn, NY/Brno,CZ
    Club:
    FC Zbrojovka Brno
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    I wouldn't think that's the case. The current French top tax rate on personal income is, at least nominally, slightly lower than that of England, Spain, Italy, and Germany. The bigger problems in competing with other top leagues for players, in my opinion, have been less TV money and the DNCG reporting that restricts clubs from extravagant spending.

    That said, Hollande did campaign on a platform that included a sizable tax increase for the top tax bracket (75% for those earning over 1 million a year), which would include a considerable number of Ligue 1 players. I don't really know enough about the specific tax plans to speculate on the ramifications for Ligue 1, but I did read about some vague mention of a "smoothing mechanism" for footballers when it was brought up (there may wind up being loopholes that highly paid players with good accountants/tax-attorneys can use, there usually are).
     
  6. guignol

    guignol Moderator
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    Apr 28, 2005
    mermoz-les-boss
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    in an interview yesterday JMA encouraged PSG to spend big on women's football and he's sincere: he knows the show will wear thin with one team dominating so outrageously.

    that said, the first major transfer of the summer will go in the other direction: élise bussaglia (PSG captain and best player) will probably sign at lyon tomorrow.

    and the "three departures" the club announced (which probably fueled the above rumors) are now almost official, even if they have been no secret to those who follow the team. rosana is going back to brazil after failing to break into the starting lineup and the two sandrines, brétigny (leading scorer in the club's history) and dusang (longtime captain but badly injured twice in two years) are leaving after neither getting a single minute this season.
     
  7. guignol

    guignol Moderator
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    Apr 28, 2005
    mermoz-les-boss
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    to follow up with a comment about the men's transfers: the club announced a few weeks ago there would be "three more departures than signings", but those three were already known: kolodziejczak, mensah and ederson. not to say OL will keep all the other players but for every player leaving one should arrive if you believe what was said.
     
  8. ASU55RR

    ASU55RR Member+

    Jul 31, 2004
    Brooklyn, NY/Brno,CZ
    Club:
    FC Zbrojovka Brno
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    I do believe that PSG investing in women's football would be good for the game in France (and in general), including Lyon in the long run.

    I also agree with this, particularly 1 and 3.
     
  9. guignol

    guignol Moderator
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    Apr 28, 2005
    mermoz-les-boss
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    the attitude of PSG this year was positively discouraging and capsulated in the PSG-OL match which was going to be the first big televised matchup of the season. the men's management refused to let the match be played at the PdP as originally planned and it ended up being held in creteil, the nearest stadium that could be found suitable for TV coverage.
     
  10. SportBoy333

    SportBoy333 Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    Pdp is too big for that match. Creteil's stadium is pretty nice actually.
     
  11. StarrMatthieu

    StarrMatthieu Member+

    Dec 15, 2007
    USA/FRANCE
    Club:
    Paris Saint Germain FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
  12. AfrcnHrbMan

    AfrcnHrbMan Member

    Jun 14, 2004
    Philly
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Remember this guy?
     
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  13. SportBoy333

    SportBoy333 Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    I enjoyed seeing Kallstrom start for Sweden. Too bad you are trying to dump him because I doubt he's begging to leave.
     
  14. guignol

    guignol Moderator
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    Apr 28, 2005
    mermoz-les-boss
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    actually i think he is begging to leave. rubin kazan is offering him a mountain of money.
     
  15. Tsigalko

    Tsigalko Member

    Jun 14, 2006
    Club:
    Olympique de Marseille
    Nat'l Team:
    Sweden
    Yea in most of the interviews here in Sweden Kållström talks about how it would be fun to be a part of an upcoming league, a new adventure, a great financial opportunity etc. whenever he's asked about Rubin. I don't think he'll ask for a transfer but if offered one I think he will gladly take the opportunity.
     
  16. KellanF

    KellanF Member

    Feb 22, 2011
    Midwestern US
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia

    Yikes.
     
  17. SportBoy333

    SportBoy333 Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    I believe there's supposed to be 2 big sales. Cissokho is very close to Naples so thats 1. I'd imagine Bastos is the other one. Ederson doesnt count, he left on a free I think. Kallstrom doesnt count either because thats not a big sale. Lovren hopefully not but maybe instead of Bastos ?
     
  18. KellanF

    KellanF Member

    Feb 22, 2011
    Midwestern US
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    I seriously hope they don't dump Lovren until they have a replacement for Cris. He still has something left but what's to say that he doesn't drop off dramatically at some point next season? He definitely isn't young anymore. I wouldn't want an Umtiti - Cris pairing. Too young, too old.

    Also Kallstrom is putting in another good performance for Sweden against England. Boy, do I want him to stay.
     
  19. guignol

    guignol Moderator
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    Apr 28, 2005
    mermoz-les-boss
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    kallstrom would be a bigger sale than you may think: he's coming off a big season and even before that rubin definitely wanted him something fierce,and he's still under contract for a while so the bargaining leverage is there. add to that the fact that he has one of the biggest salaries on the club and his sale make big financial sense.
     
  20. SportBoy333

    SportBoy333 Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    Gourcuff on the block for 13-15m. Ederson gone. They want to dump Kallstrom and Bastos. If you lose 4 midfielders you are really playing with fire and asking for trouble. Not to mention you could need a striker too because of Gomis's current troubles. Things are looking pretty bleak. Not as bad as OM though.:)
     
  21. Oort Cloud

    Oort Cloud Member

    Dec 19, 2007
    Marseille
    Club:
    Olympique de Marseille
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    It won't that bad, If a horrible season forces MLD to sell the team.
     
  22. StarrMatthieu

    StarrMatthieu Member+

    Dec 15, 2007
    USA/FRANCE
    Club:
    Paris Saint Germain FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    whats the deal with the new stadium >
     
  23. guignol

    guignol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 28, 2005
    mermoz-les-boss
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    gomis' troubles may not be over (though no charges have been filed) but it's very unlikely he will miss any play because of them. le parisien's figure seems realistic but doesn't signify much; all of OL's players are always on the block for the right price. that doesn't mean it's a going out of business sale.
     

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