Multichannel News: beIN Sports USA will launch 2 channels on August 1

epl is not coming they are not interested and there is two channels la liga on one and serie a on another why do you think they got two icons from goltv phill and ray makes watching games enjoyable la liga or serie a and they know the leagues and are trying to promote it

 

Big assumption. There are Mexican players in Espanol, Coruna and Zaragosa, Venezuelans in Malaga, Colombians in Atletico Madrid. Dude you are speaking from a strip anglo point of view, without realizing that people look at La liga for quality not for brands.

People that know futbol, know what is a good game in Spain, UK, France, Portugal and Germany.

If for some reason, Malaga or Atletico become a first league team, people will turn to watch it.

Your arguments is based on Television ratings and not true football passion.

I will say this again and again until you get it. Soccer in the United States of America is a niche sport, but has so much up side potential. EPL has been well promoted by Fox, because they have the resources hence the ratings. Goltv does not have that type of leverage hence the ratings are not that great.

But the potential is there, and all you have to look is at the demographics and see were can you growth your product.

Comcast like must American Entertainment Companies are going to look at the numbers, and the cost, and may not be willing to take a chance on La Liga, "Why" because the ratings claim that no one tunes in to watch La liga. Yet, there are potentially 30 to 50 million that can become potential La Liga followers.

So, do you think that Comcast is willing to make that bet? In addition, look at the cost, and how are we going to get our money back? Plus can put commercials on every segment?

These are the back and for conversation that Comcast may be having.

So that is why I am not sold on the Comcast potential partnership, and if it does go on, it would be a bad bad relationship.

Business partnership take many things in consideration, and I can assure you that a partnership with a conservative American company like Comcast and an Arab company like Al Jaseera is not going to end well.

So, we are back on the lets see what works.

 

you still think Tier 3 Big East rights will get BEIN into 80 million homes?

that is just not going happen. See MASN v. Time Warner

 

Lets take a different approach. Somewhere in 1998 an Australian had this crazy idea of bringing international Sports to the United States, and decided to brand the new channel Fox World Sports.

In 2002 an investment group from Uruguay decided that the United States was in need of some international football so they launch a channel call Goltv.

Fox put an executive team of Americans who had very little knowledge of the game so they experimented for several years until they found the right formula and did away with the PPV model. Goltv on the other hand, had no issues with programming, but they did not have the leverage Newscorp had so, it took a while for them to get good distribution.

Now, another foreign company wants to set foot in the land of opportunity, but has very little knowledge of the American consumer. And this is where the problem lies.

In the United States of America, Football "Soccer" is not as popular as other American sports, but the cost of acquiring the license is very high mostly due to over-bidding. So a top executive has to be convinced that even thought the cost is hight, in the long term it is going to be worthy.

So you can argue all you want that Comcast may be the ideal partner for a foreign company to do business with, but I do not see Comcast putting too much money behind this idea, and I do not see the new kid on the block giving his food away so he can play in the sandbox.

I am just saying.

 

Hence, there is your problem. Giving the rights to a new kid on the block is going to set Football in America. You are right, trying to sell Soccer is tuff, so the new kid on the block may have the rights to the top two players in the world and one of the must fascinating league in Europe, but selling it to distributors will be challenging at best.

So here we go again. I am going to have to go back to the south of the border and bring back a Directv system either from Colombia or Venezuela so I can see la Liga again. I did this in for several years, so doing it again will not be a headache.

 

How will they boost the popularity of serie a and la liga if most of us can't get either channel?

 

Raise your hand if you can name another network that has televised 41 regular-season MLS games + five playoff games + US National Team games in a single MLS season. It's not a question of what it supplants, it's a question of resources.

You really have absolutely no idea how television works, do you?

 

So you don't think the market brings pressure to bear on things like this? If it's the top two players in the world and one of the most fascinating leagues in Europe, if you can see that has value in the US marketplace and I can see that has value in the US marketplace, do you think TV providers will believe it has value in the US marketplace and that there's money to be made?

Won't happen overnight, it rarely does. But do you remember "I Want My MTV?" Public demand is what drives this stuff. Then the game gets played with the posturing and the negotiating, But if you really have the top two players in the world and one of the most fascinating leagues in Europe, it's not a matter of selling it to distributors, it's a matter of the terms of the deal. This is how it works.

 

The way you make it sound like is that BeIn Sports would only show the 2 clasicos and forget other Real Madrid and Barca matches. Considering a tie/draw is basically a lost in Spain for both those clubs one could say Barca and Real Madrid games have more going on the line than EPL games.

 

comcast already owns a sports network, so why would they use a 'partnership' with aj to showcase whatever college b-ball they get? comcast already could use college b-ball on its own. what will nbc-sports show on staurday nights in fall/winter?

aj has lined up lots of content at high cost, but has no distribution outlet. apparently they're not looking to sublicense, as they are promising to make deals with carriers. is this common in the business, or is aj putting the cart before the horse?

the fact that aj already has sunk money into those rights leaves only two future possibilities. either they believe in growing the value of those properties to recoup the investment; or they're not looking at the bottom line and they're into this whole thing for other reasons. (or they haven't got a clear notion at this point which way they're going...).

 

some of those slaughter games aren't compelling. real or barca home games against weak opposition have almost no interest unless you just want people to get off on the nou camp or bernabeu. question: if you had to make a live programming choice, do you go with barca-granada, or roma-juventus?

 

I still don't understand how a Tier 3 big east basketball sublicense will get BEIN out of a sports tier? These are essentially the games MASN has now, along with virtually all the games for the Washington Nationals and Baltimore Orioles and they cannot get a non sports tier deal worked out with Time Warner. I also don't understand why Comcast sublicense Tier 3 content when their RSN's like SNY, CSN Philly, and CSN Washington would love to obtain/retain Tier 3 Big East Basketball content. Why do you feel that it will?

 

Oliver will never give you an honest answer to your question, because his theory is based upon wild supposition coupled with a lack of knowledge of how Big East rights will be valued by the market. You see, AJ HAS to get the Big East or Oliver's absolutely fictionalized business plan goes splat. He fails to realize that nobody in San Diego, much less the rest of America, gives a rat's ass about Saturday night San Diego State football. No way in hell that the addition of third tier Big East rights gets beIn Sports off of anybody's sports tier, or in 80 million homes.

If Oliver is treating this thread as an online job audition, he'd best learn about some of the properties he is pushing. Because he is embarrassing himself at this point.

 

I'm curious about the first person pronoun that serves as the subject of this sentence.

 

Let's talk programming, if you are in charge of getting programming la liga and you come up to me and tell me that the only games you care about is R. Madrid and Barcelona, I will fire you on the SPOT. A good programmer needs to know what the audience wants. In addition, if I asked you to growth my ratings for La Liga, please do not tell me that only Barcelona and R. Madrid are the only games people want to watch. I need you to make La liga as popular as possible with the youth of America.

Yes, you can use prior data, but now I need you to growth the business. So how are you going to accomplish that?

 

The Hornets?? You sure about that??

 

we don't get the hornets ( or bobcats) in eastern nc

so you think 2nd tier big big east basketball (i.e. #2 and #3 picks/week) will get 80 million? I don't, but you're entitled you to your opinion

 

but hang on now...
comcast was supposed to be the dirty hardball player. they're the guys that impose 'mandatory' this and 'mandatory' that...
now they're going to get haggled by beIN over #2 and #3, 10am epl matches?
after which, as a final twist to such earth-shaking trades of content, they're supposed to cave and immediately put beIN on expanded basic? (also negating, btw, any ratings their secondary epl product might have gotten?)