Obama Failure Thread Part IV

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  1. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
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    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
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    United States
    Yeah, I'm a little skeptical of that thesis, given recent experience.
     
  2. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
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    Seattle Sounders
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    United States
    Yet again.. Peacekeeping operations are, by and large, short term affairs that can be sustained better using in country bases during the period of occupation and resupply operations can/should be carried out by our allies in that area. Hell, the US doesn't necessarily have to be the ones with boots on the ground. For Middle East operations, is there a reason why Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Jordan and their relatively large militaries can't be relied upon maintaining stability in that region? Of course, there is issues with the Sunni, Shi'ite, etc. divide, but, with the exception of Iraq, the Shi'ite dominated countries are outside the US's sphere of influence anyways.

    Yet again, there is no reason why carrier fleet resupply operations can not be conducted through ally bases. The US resupplies the fleets of our allies through our bases and there is no reason why we should not expect the same through their bases.
    A US fighter jet might not be able to get to Taiwan on a single tank of gas, but a ROK and JSDF fighter can, not to mention carrier based fighters, etc, etc. The US also has numerous territories scattered around the world that it is already using as military bases and a very large naval base centrally located in the Pacific that it can use to launch major operations from. Additionally, any operation that requires large force reaction within a few days is exceedingly rare and is largely improbable to carry out simply because of the politics involved.

    Have you not been paying attention to SE Asia lately? China hasn't viewed the US as a disinterested party for decades and any increase in the size of JSDF would be offset by decreases in the US presence.
     
  3. That Phat Hat

    That Phat Hat Member+

    Nov 14, 2002
    Just Barely Outside the Beltway
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    Liverpool FC
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    And also, the ability of the US to act quickly also makes a need for such operations rare.
    Obviously, the US isn't disinterested and the principals know that. That's (part of) the point, and the US presence acts as a lock against a rise in tensions that an invasion-capable Japanese force or an independent surge by Taiwan, say, would cause.
     
  4. TheSlipperyOne

    TheSlipperyOne Member+

    Feb 29, 2000
    Denver
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    We're on a primarily US based soccer board and people are calling for the removal of US trip from Germany?

    Christ, with that type of thinking we'll never win a World Cup.
     
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  5. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
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    Birmingham City FC
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    United States
    We should move all our armed forces to T&T. That'd get us at least home-field advantage.
     
  6. YankBastard

    YankBastard Na Na Na Na NANANANAAA!

    Jun 18, 2005
    Estados Unidos
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  7. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Dear Bill - Either vote for Mitt or STFU
     
  8. Quayle

    Quayle Member

    May 2, 2012
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    Who facts checks for Maher? He's on the long list of idiots who actually believe the "study" about Obama's lack of spending. And giving Obama credit for increased drilling is plain wrong.
    Maher is a sissy.
     
  9. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
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    Sep 21, 2002
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    And if he votes for GJ?
     
  10. tomwilhelm

    tomwilhelm Member+

    Dec 14, 2005
    Boston, MA, USA
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    Then it'll be just like he didn't vote at all...
     
  11. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
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    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
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    He lives in California. It's gonna be that way no matter who he votes for.
     
  12. That Phat Hat

    That Phat Hat Member+

    Nov 14, 2002
    Just Barely Outside the Beltway
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    Japan
    More importantly, he's pouring money into Obama's campaign. He could split himself into 100 pieces and have each piece vote for Romney, he'd still be doing more for Obama.
     
  13. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
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    Birmingham City FC
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    United States
    But it's true, that study...do you have any evidence to suggest it's wrong? Why do you say it's wrong when it's not? You just don't know what you're talking about.
     
  14. That Phat Hat

    That Phat Hat Member+

    Nov 14, 2002
    Just Barely Outside the Beltway
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    Japan
    Obama has a (D) after his name. Therefore, he's a Spendocrat and a tree hugger. The End.
     
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  15. Germerica

    Germerica Member+

    May 2, 2012
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  16. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    That would indeed be bad if the President thought that the Poles operated death camps. Not bad at all if he meant "death camp [operated by Nazis] located in Poland."
     
  17. tomwilhelm

    tomwilhelm Member+

    Dec 14, 2005
    Boston, MA, USA
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    Fulham FC
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    People intentionally misunderstanding a slightly awkwardly phrased point suck.
     
  18. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
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    Arsenal FC
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    Anyone see the irony with regard to the poster trying to make hay out of this story? Just checking.
     
  19. Germerica

    Germerica Member+

    May 2, 2012
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    Chill out. It's up to the individual to decide what he/she constitutes an actual fail. CNN seemed to think it noteworthy, maybe others will as well. Otherwise, keep the comments to yourself. Thanks.
     
  20. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
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    Arsenal FC
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    Aww, now what would the point of a message board be if we all kept our comments to ourself?
     
  21. Germerica

    Germerica Member+

    May 2, 2012
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    Los Angeles
    Your comment specifically was uncalled for. Unless you'd like to elaborate on it.

    No? That's what I thought.
     
  22. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
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    Chicago Fire
    Actually, your hypersensitivity is uncalled for. Or is there a reason for you to be sensitive?

    Care to elaborate?
     
  23. Germerica

    Germerica Member+

    May 2, 2012
    Club:
    Los Angeles
    If he's trying to insinuate what it appears he is, then calling him out on it is hardly uncalled for. That's why he should explain his comment in greater detail. Otherwise it's just a drive-by comment we could all do without.
     
  24. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    If you can't handle a drive-by insult, this isn't the place for you.
     
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  25. Germerica

    Germerica Member+

    May 2, 2012
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    Los Angeles
    Maybe not, maybe not.
     

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