Is Tim Ream the deal?

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by deuteronomy, Mar 22, 2010.

  1. HouseHead78

    HouseHead78 Member+

    Oct 17, 2006
    Austin, TX
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think the pace, physicality, and direct style of the Championship is a good test for Ream - this is the type of game most of us think he's ill-suited for, so if he can do well there he will become a more complete player. No problem with Ream doing a year's time in the second tier if that's what it comes to. Same with Holden. If he's too good for the level, he'll get bought in January - otherwise it's a good league for him to find his feet again.
     
  2. FC RASTA

    FC RASTA Member

    Mar 28, 2005
    California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cleensheet I screwed up big time with Miller....I really thought he had not been capped! But still not back down on my TR opinion. I mean talk about getting chances and doors opening up for you...it has to be earned. Did you forget his past Redbull seasons...yikes!
     
  3. kokoplus10

    kokoplus10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 5, 2008
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also Miller is not a very good defender. He's constantly under fire from Red Bull fans. Tim Ream had to bail him out on MULTIPLE occassions cause he'd go wandering up the field and never return. And Marquez playing like $hit and Solli working as a converted right back with no sense of the role didn't really help either.

    It's very telling that in Ream's first year with the club playing on a backline with Petke and Albright (and Lindpere playing center mid) they were one of the best defenses in the league. Enter Marquez, Solli, a GK controversy, and a rash of injuries, and Lindpere being moved out wide in his second year and the defense fell apart. But yeah...that must have been Ream's fault.
     
  4. FC RASTA

    FC RASTA Member

    Mar 28, 2005
    California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    KOKO, I understand you are a Ream fan and I agree with your NYRB defense break down. However, when I examined Ream, I was looking at his individual play for the Bulls and during the GoldCup, USMNT games and Red Bull games...there I saw a player consistently beaten, with poor decision making skills "based on the hype" and chances he kept getting. That is what I was saying. As for Miller, I appreciated his quickness, ball skills, decision making. However, I do agree that he makes many runs up the wing and does not cover his defensive role. But I believe that is based on the assignment given to him by his manger with the Bulls.
     
  5. kokoplus10

    kokoplus10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 5, 2008
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have always said that Ream's weakness is his consistency, or call it whatever you want: Not being dialed in for 90 minutes/too casual with the ball/error prone/etc.

    However, he does not consistently get beaten, nor does he have poor decision making skills. He's simply prone to a big gaffe every now and then. If you take that away he is an INCREDIBLE defender. Now will those gaffe problems he has change? Who knows. I think he made one or two big mistakes in the EPL this season, but the difference is that he wasn't with the Red Bulls so his teammates covered for him...cause you know...it's a team game.

    He was very deserving of the chances he got. He is one of the better CB prospects we have.

    Miller? He isn't quick, his ball skills aren't that great, his decision making is terrible and his positional awareness is even worse. He's terrible in the air, offers nothing in attack, and gets dribbled around like a parking cone.
     
  6. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who all are Bolton losing next year? If they don't lose too many players + they get a healthy stu back then they should bounce right back up...
     
  7. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    They have a lot of players out of contract. The chairman indicated that they will be looking at their youth system to replace them. They do get back Holden and Lee, but it could be a bumpy ride. YA thread on Ream covers a lot of this.
     
  8. Mestes

    Mestes BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 1, 2004
    Kennesaw
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What is it you would look for, if you were manager, in a CD? I would look for consistency because that's the job.

    Having said that, I agree. Tim will get there.
     
  9. Spursfan1

    Spursfan1 Member+

    Sep 7, 2010
    Atlanta
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tim is a very viable prospect. but he needs to imrpove his defending. (which means he has to play lots of games...which if he stays healthy and plays a lot for bolton in the championship next season he will)

    CBs tend to get better with age. 26 in 2014 right? perfect. 2 years of experience. i am hoping he starts the gold cup for us in 2013.

    lets all hope.
     
  10. Skevin

    Skevin Member+

    Aug 9, 2009
    Colorado
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    I hope we will have a better CB who is playing consistently at a higher level than Ream. The Championship is barely a step above MLS. Some of the teams in the championship are so bad, but then again, some are decent. It's a very lopsided league at times.
     
  11. Spursfan1

    Spursfan1 Member+

    Sep 7, 2010
    Atlanta
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    the championship is better than MLS without a doubt.
     
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  12. Skevin

    Skevin Member+

    Aug 9, 2009
    Colorado
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    Some teams yes, but other teams are worse than MLS clubs.
     
  13. BimmerBenz95

    BimmerBenz95 Member+

    Feb 24, 2012
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep so is the 2BL.
     
  14. Adiaga Two

    Adiaga Two Member+

    Oct 4, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  15. WondoSoWonderful

    May 3, 2012
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Get real, you know that isn't true
     
  16. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    Good to know. That should disqualify Stu Holden from starting over players that start in Serie A, MFL, Bundesliga and EPL.
     
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  17. Spursfan1

    Spursfan1 Member+

    Sep 7, 2010
    Atlanta
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    bahahahaahaha. or the fact that the top half of the championship far exceeds the MLS. No doubt. I would argue the top half of the MLS could be mid table in the championship maybe.
     
  18. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    I'd agree with this as well.
     
  19. Spursfan1

    Spursfan1 Member+

    Sep 7, 2010
    Atlanta
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And I mean COULD be. Maybe. Most likely closer to relegation.

    the squads are larger. the season is LONG. they play lots and lots of games. and it is FAST and DIRECT. they dont fool around.

    You dont get to take 5 seconds to turn on the ball and slowly move it forward like MLS games can do. someone will be on you very very quickly.
     
  20. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    Yes, I took the "maybe" in to account when I agreed. I think most of MLS is top League One, lower Championship quality. I'm also ok with that considering the salaries.
     
  21. Grumpy in LA

    Grumpy in LA Bringing It Since 1807™

    Sep 10, 2007
    Chicago
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The teams in the Championship also don't play in Dallas in August. The pace and physicality of the Championship would be physically impossible in many MLS cities for much of the season. That's at least as much a question of climate as of talent.
     

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