Official 2012/2013 Champions League Thread

Discussion in 'Juventus' started by Daei_10, Apr 26, 2012.

  1. Northern Juventino

    May 25, 2011
    Toronto
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    watching CL final. Bayern is doing most of the pressing. Wake me up when its over
     
  2. KensingtonSC

    KensingtonSC Still Lazy After All These Years

    FC Vaduz / Philadelphia Union
    Jan 7, 2010
    Andalusia, PA
    Club:
    FC Vaduz
    I can't figure out how England gets 4 group stage spots. Assenhole was supposed to go to the playoff round to replace Spuds. I mean, I guess it's a good thing since now no Italian team will have to face them in the playoff round, but it still seems somewhat unfair.
     
  3. Northern Juventino

    May 25, 2011
    Toronto
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    wow you serious? so who got demoted to qualifying to give EPL four group spots?
     
  4. KensingtonSC

    KensingtonSC Still Lazy After All These Years

    FC Vaduz / Philadelphia Union
    Jan 7, 2010
    Andalusia, PA
    Club:
    FC Vaduz
    Spuds were sent down to the Europa League group stage, and Newcastle now enters the Europa League playoff round.
     
  5. Northern Juventino

    May 25, 2011
    Toronto
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    I know but Spurs were supposed to be in CL qualifying. You are saying that all 4 are in CL Group. I think Arsenal play in CL Qualifying
     
  6. Dante

    Dante Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The top 3 teams from the BPL are awarded automatic CL qualification, like Serie A used to have. Since Chelski won the CL Final they gain automatic qualification (the Liverpool rule). Hence all 4 BPL teams are in the group stages automatically.
     
  7. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    I don't think UEFA has made any decision yet. Good chance that Arsenal will have to qualify as it would drop to fourth in the pecking order just like Tottenham dropped to fifth.
     
  8. KensingtonSC

    KensingtonSC Still Lazy After All These Years

    FC Vaduz / Philadelphia Union
    Jan 7, 2010
    Andalusia, PA
    Club:
    FC Vaduz
    No. All four Champions League teams from England are playing the Group Stage. I thought Assenhole had to play in the Playoff Round, but, nope, they don't have to. It screwed things up a little bit. Russia's second place team, and Portugal's third would've had to play in the third round of qualifying, but they've been bumped up to the playoff round to compensate for Arsenal not having to play in the playoff round.
     
  9. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Where did you find that? First, I don't think any FA has officially sent their list of clubs to UEFA. And there is nothing on the UEFA site. If Arsenal is granted direct qualification to the CL group, it will be at the expense of someone else. There are too many political implications to do that. Most likely, Arsenal will have to qualify.
     
  10. KensingtonSC

    KensingtonSC Still Lazy After All These Years

    FC Vaduz / Philadelphia Union
    Jan 7, 2010
    Andalusia, PA
    Club:
    FC Vaduz
    Here's how it works: 22 teams enter the Group Stage automatically. They are the Title Holder, 12 Champions of coefficients 1-12, 6 second place teams from coefficients 1-6, and 3 third place teams from coefficients 1-3. In the event that the Title Holder has already entered the Group Stage, then the Champion from coefficient 13 will enter the Group Stage.

    This is all decided on before the season even begins.
     
  11. phat

    phat Viking

    Feb 13, 2006
    Montreal
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I was under the impression that the Liverpool rule required Chel$ki to qualify.
     
  12. juventino13

    juventino13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2005
    Caribbean
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    That would make it pointless. What if they fail to qualify, they dont have a chance to defend their title. The whole point was to have the winner in the competition so they can defend their title
     
  13. phat

    phat Viking

    Feb 13, 2006
    Montreal
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Bah... not really.
     
  14. juventino13

    juventino13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2005
    Caribbean
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Well then beats me
     
  15. ArtemioD

    ArtemioD Member+

    Jun 2, 2006
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Juve are 6th choice at 18-1 with Paddy Power. Barca and Madrid co favorites 7-2 then City at 13-2 Bayern and United at 10-1 Chelsea at 12-1. I'm kind of suprised that they put us ahead of Milan.
     
  16. juventino13

    juventino13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2005
    Caribbean
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Im not, everyone can see Milan is gonna have a tough season with losing like 45 players :)
     
  17. KensingtonSC

    KensingtonSC Still Lazy After All These Years

    FC Vaduz / Philadelphia Union
    Jan 7, 2010
    Andalusia, PA
    Club:
    FC Vaduz
    How could City be 13-2?? They aren't that good. If the Premier League had the same tiebreaker system that Serie A uses, United would be Champions. It's a joke. Just goes to prove how weak Europe really is right now.
     
  18. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    It shows that the quality of players is very average.
     
  19. Daei_10

    Daei_10 Member+

    Aug 22, 2007
    LA, California
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i think whoever wins CL deserves to be in it next year, no matter their position in the domestic league table
     
  20. KensingtonSC

    KensingtonSC Still Lazy After All These Years

    FC Vaduz / Philadelphia Union
    Jan 7, 2010
    Andalusia, PA
    Club:
    FC Vaduz
    CONCACAF Champions League and AFC Champions League don't let the title holder automatically qualify. The title holder of the Copa Libertadores qualifies automatically for the second stage. Interestingly enough, the winner of the Copa Sudamericana, which is the equivalent of the Europa League, gets a Libertadores qualification. The CAF Champions League doesn't really say for certain whether the winner gets an automatic qualification.
     
  21. phat

    phat Viking

    Feb 13, 2006
    Montreal
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Technically Chel$ki take the Spurs 4th spot which is a qualifying spot. I'm pretty sure that means Chel$ki needs to qualify and not an automatic group stages.
     
  22. KensingtonSC

    KensingtonSC Still Lazy After All These Years

    FC Vaduz / Philadelphia Union
    Jan 7, 2010
    Andalusia, PA
    Club:
    FC Vaduz
    The Title Holder gets an automatic qualification to the Group Stages. I posted the rules up above.

    The end result is England gets 4 Group Stage places. There's no argument.
     
  23. Northern Juventino

    May 25, 2011
    Toronto
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    So do you know who gets shafted with a CL Qualification?
     
  24. KensingtonSC

    KensingtonSC Still Lazy After All These Years

    FC Vaduz / Philadelphia Union
    Jan 7, 2010
    Andalusia, PA
    Club:
    FC Vaduz
    Tottenham is the only team who gets shafted out of all of this. If Bayern Munich wins, then the Champion from Belgium (RSC Anderlecht) goes to the Group Stages, and Tottenham goes to the playoff round. Chelski winning is also a benefit to Lille and Spartak Moscow, who would have had to play in the third round, but now they get bumped up to the playoff round.
     
  25. juventino13

    juventino13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2005
    Caribbean
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Tottenham did
     

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