won't hire the obese

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by msilverstein47, May 8, 2012.

  1. Belgian guy

    Belgian guy Member+

    Club Brugge
    Belgium
    Aug 19, 2002
    Belgium
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    Club Brugge KV
    Okay, in that case it's kinda dickish.
     
  2. That Phat Hat

    That Phat Hat Member+

    Nov 14, 2002
    Just Barely Outside the Beltway
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    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    It's also a hospital that was concerned there were too many brown doctors.
     
  3. minerva

    minerva Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Denver, CO
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    Liverpool FC
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    United States
    hmm - I could totally see a hospice care business going for this kind of thing. after all, we are trying to make the last few days of the dying patients as pleasant as possible. fat and ugly people need not apply!
     
  4. Bman

    Bman Member

    Apr 24, 2001
    Beverly, MA
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    New England Revolution
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    United States
    Taking the lane is legal in many states. Bicycles are considered vehicles with the same rights and responsibilities. I frequently take the whole lane if it is unsafe to be passed. I move over first chance I can.
     
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  5. minerva

    minerva Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Denver, CO
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    Liverpool FC
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    United States
    great, so you're one of the a-holes! ;)
    sometimes such people need to be "nudged" out of the way.
    too bad those mountain roads don't have minimum speed requirements like highways do :D
     
  6. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
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    We'll lose the physical battle vs. a car every time. But the traffic law is what allows us to think we have the legit right to take the full lane when road conditions warrant. Sorry to inconvenience you.
     
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  7. minerva

    minerva Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Denver, CO
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    Liverpool FC
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    United States
    not at all. good'ay sir!
     
  8. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
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    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
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    FC Dallas
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    United States
    Be sure to shoot me a message -- preferably with your car's make, model, and license plate number -- before you come up to Boulder County, so I can be prepared.
     
  9. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
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    Birmingham City FC
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    United States
    Minerva, you are outgunned here. You can kill one, maybe two of us, but where one bicyclist is struck down another rides up to take his/her place.:D
     
  10. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
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    We're like f'in Al Queda in spandex.
     
  11. minerva

    minerva Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Denver, CO
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    Liverpool FC
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    United States
    repped! lol
     
  12. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
    If Hooters can do this to sling crappy chicken wings a hospital can do this as well. Who here doesn't want a naughty nurse?
     
  13. wallacegrommit

    Sep 19, 2005
    This topic could be the premise of an Eddie Murphy movie.
     
  14. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
    fat people get too many undeserved benefits. all they have to do is burn more calories than they intake. in rare cases medical conditions dont allow for this but less than 5% of fat people are fat due to this. most fat people are also stupid because if they were not stupid they would not be fat. there needs to be fat/stupid people though so the economy can keep going how it is going.

    why are people so illogical? 'it is bad to discriminate against fat people just because they are fat.' well how come i have to pay an arm and a leg (fat ones too) for automobile insurance just because i am in a certain age group.
     
  15. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
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    Birmingham City FC
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    United States
    I've been told I can't respond to this...

    But I want to sooo badly....

    "Fat people are also stupid..."

    Please? Somebody say I can go after this. Just this once?
     
  16. That Phat Hat

    That Phat Hat Member+

    Nov 14, 2002
    Just Barely Outside the Beltway
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    Liverpool FC
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    Japan
    Because younger drivers are at higher risk of accidents, so insurers charge you more to mitigate the risk, the same way obese people pay more in health and life insurance because the cost of insuring them is higher. Have you thought about using a comparison that doesn't contradict your claim?
     
  17. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
    i know why, but it is discrimination nonetheless. discrimination cannot happen on a random basis. who is to say it is worse to be denied a job instead of paying higher insurance for 10 years? either way in a free market there will be discrimination. this is because 'freedom' means a lot of personal choices and these choices are made in discriminatory fashion in many cases. do you see the problem with a 'free' market?

    what proof do you have of this? i highly doubt it. if someone is medically obese then perhaps but say someone is just fat i doubt it.
     
  18. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
     
  19. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    People like Orson Welles, Peter Ustinov and John Mortimer were stupid, were they?
     
  20. That Phat Hat

    That Phat Hat Member+

    Nov 14, 2002
    Just Barely Outside the Beltway
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    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I'm not interested in the discrimination angle, and I'm not entirely unsympathetic to a healthcare employer who wants its employees to be in good health.

    But your claim that fatties get preferential treatment is specious, especially when you use insurance rates as a reference point. Employment and insurance companies are different, believe it or not, and part of an insurer's job is to assess risk based on collected data. You can call it discrimination, that's fine. They're not equal opportunity insurers.

    And are you seriously unaware of how insurance premiums are set? High BMI will cost you, not to mention any obesity related conditions that show up in a physical.
     
  21. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
    as i said, i doubt fatness will raise insurance unless it is 'medically obese.' i think that is a bmi of 32 or 33 and up... and that is REALLY FAT. a bmi of 28 would be FAT but i doubt it will raise insurance.
     
  22. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
    you mean there were 3 smart fat people out of a billion fat people? woulda never guessed.
     
  23. That Phat Hat

    That Phat Hat Member+

    Nov 14, 2002
    Just Barely Outside the Beltway
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    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    See, you're moving the goalposts now. You're just setting arbitrary parameters because you can't back up your claim, which was that the overweight people are have it easy while young drivers are discriminated against (let's also not forget, overweight women earn $5,000 a year less while fat men earn $2,000 less). You pay more now because your demographic group costs insurers more, just like obese insurance customer costs insurers more. It's discrimination, but everyone's discriminated based on the same standard.

    Look, you made an intellectually dishonest claim and you're getting yourself into even more intellectual dishonesty. Let's pretend you never said any of this and move on.
     
  24. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
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    Birmingham City FC
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    United States
    If I come up with a fourth name (William Howard Taft) you get to go away, right?
     
  25. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
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    DC United
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    United States
    Awesome.
     

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