Coach's fault, FA's fault, Confederation's fault, it doesn't matter, it should not be happening at all in a game. How hard is it for just ONE person to check if everyone in the starting line-up is eligible for the next match? It's ridiculous how often it happens. The same thing happened to Qatar. Paulo Autuori led Qatar well in this campaign, but if he/QFA didn't screw them over by fielding an ineligible player against Oman, they would've qualified. Qatar deserved to qualify, seeing as them and South Korea are the 2 undefeated teams in the group, while Oman have 2 losses. Oman will get torn apart in the next round. It's surprising really. You don't expect a team like Uzbekistan to make such significant mistakes, especially in their home stadium. Although UAE U-23, for some reason, are really good compared to the senior team.
Oh my... So that explains where the 3-0 came from in Oman's game! I was shocked when I saw that scoreline, since Qatar's defense is very hard to break down. It didn't make sense to me how a defensive Olympic team, like Autuori's Qatar, would concede 3 goals in one match. What a pity that Qatar gave that match away to Oman, due to a silly technical error. Their team is much, much stronger than Oman. Defensively, they're as solid as a rock. If Autuori's Olympic side is anything to go by, we should expect to see Qatar's defense improve before the upcoming round of World Cup qualifications. Is it just me or are Qataris (as well as non-Qataris in Qatar) also getting the feeling that Qatar is slowly becoming a difficult side to beat? It's actually amazing how they're doing well, even against the likes of South Korea, nowadays. Normally, this wasn't the case. Well, to be fair, if the Uzbeks had taken care of their embarrassing playing surface, then the Uzbek defender wouldn't have kicked the air instead of the ball, LOL.
You guys are missing the point. The current system IS NOT working. This happens so many times that the winners of competitions are no longer the most skilled, but the ones that haven't ********ed up regarding who they're sending on the field. Sepahan last year beat the eventual champions of Asia TWICE, home and away. One mistake that was barely their fault (the player that was ineligible was on loan to Sepahan from another team and he received the yellows months ago and had forgotten about it) cost them the competition. The Qatari team ended up winning the whole thing!! Now the same thing has happened to three teams in the Olympic qualifiers!!! There needs to be a standard. For whatever reason, this is happening over and over. How hard is it for the AFC to verify the eligibility of the players before hand when they get the team lists? When I played football in high school I could go online and check my stats. This included the number of goals I had scored and the number of cards I had. Even an amateur league was able to keep track of the number of cards I had. AFC can easily rule a player eligible before the game, but they're keeping silent. To me, the lack of professionalism is ultimately with the AFC. This is a VERY mediocre issue to kick out a team from any competition. It's happening over and over and the AFC has a way to fix it.
How is it different from other confeds. Sion got kicked out of the Europa League for playing ineligible players. 4 CONCACAF 2014 World Cup qualifiers got their results amended due to eligibility problems. TP Mazembe got kicked out of last year's CAF Champions League because of an ineligible player. Yet somehow it's all the AFC's fault. J
None of the things you said negate the fact that the AFC has the power to check the eligibility of the players when they get the list. It's as if I buy a car without the bank checking my credit and later on taking the car back because they find out I have bad credit! Most people don't know their credit score, but they might have a rough idea where they stand. Based on that, the bank could say the fault is with the customer and they would have a right to take back the car, even if he/she has paid all the payments on time.
i partially blame the AFC but i also partially blame the teams for fielding the players. are you telling me these teams cant even keep track of their own players? then how are they possibly gonna keep track at the AFC? do i think the result is harsh absolutely and it screwed a few teams over in the process. but how did these teams not know? i think giving the AFC too much blame will only not hold the clubs accountable for their players.
At the end of the day, the AFC has the cards on the system and gets the team list before the game. They have the power to share the information with all the parties involved before the kickoff. If I have information about a crime that is about to take place and I do nothing to stop it, I am just as guilty as the person who is going to comit the crime. And are you implying the teams knew but chose to risk it? I highly doubt it. In many cases, the players themselves have forgotten about the cards. In Asia, there are often breaks as long as 3 or more months between different stages of the champions league. The players can forget and if they're transferred to another team, the other team would have no way of knowing. Kicking a team out of a competition because they field a double carded player is extremely unfair and it happens WAY TOO many times in Asia.
If you knew your credit score (or should know) that would be appropriate as you have effectively lied based on what you have told me. But, if you can't know it (even if you can "guess") then it would be unfair, but the country's should know who they can play, it's not a "secret" if a player has got a yellow card, or played for another country. By saying the responsibility is on the AFC to provide a list you open up all sorts of shenanigans. Say I submit a list with a alternative name for a player (heaven knows, there are various names for many players if you look at FIFA, or the AFC or wikipedia, or bigsoccer, or the newspaper) and the AFC says he's fine to play but he actually isn't. Then how can the opposition complain when the AFC has said the player is good to go. ALL confederations have adopted these procedures for this reason among others. J
that makes NO SENSE! A person has one legal name and that's the name the AFC, or other football governing bodies, receive. The name on the back of the shirt of a player is irrelevent. The number 9 of team XYZ might be known as Alininho and that might be the name on the back of his shirt or the name you read in the news paper. When he gets booked, FIFA or AFC will have Ali Abbas, or whatever the hell his full name might be, as the player booked. When team XYZ submits a team list later on, they don't send his nickname, they submit HIS FULL LEGAL NAME to AFC, FIFA... At that point the AFC will compare it to the names on the list.
If a team fields an ineligible player what happens to (a) AFC and (b)That team. (a) Bugger all, they simply give the result to the other team. (b) They get disqualified for illegally letting a player compete. Obviously consequence is much higher, so the incentive to be on top of these things should be much higher and if the team doesn't.............then frankly it's just a penalty for being completely incompetent. So by that, the teams should be switched on enough to figure out when they can and can't play a player. It's not all too difficult to draw up a list an FA's technical committee going "okay who's got a yellow in all WCQ competitions so far?".
And yet, the AFC has knowledge of the said ineligibility before the game even starts. Why can't they share the information with the parties involved when they get the team list?
The AFC do tend to put on their website players who are suspended. I'm sure tey even put it in writing to the FA's, but I bet the FA's don't look at much correspondance. In fact half the FA's websites don't work so god help us if they have valid working email addresses/fax lines etc. Time the FA's took some responsability aswell. And don't forget, AFC is run by the FA's anyway! They are all elected, so you blame AFC, yet you are blaming all FA's in the AFC. They're 10 people on the AFC Disciplinary Committee, if anythign you should be holding them to account and to make changes to their current system On the Competitions Committee you have your very own Ali Kafashian, so whats he doing to make such competitions run smoothly?
Well they tell the clubs the rules of what deems ineligibility. And they tell the clubs obviously when a player gets a card. .....the club should just put 2 and 2 together. The stakes are high for the team, so they shouldn't be making careless mistakes like that.
Playoff round started today: Syria 1:1 Oman Oman have 6 players in their ranks who have also played for the Senior team in world cup qualifiers.
Syria 1:2 Uzbekistan Syria out, Oman must beat Uzbekistan to advance, otherwise Uzbekistan go to final playoff.
oh well I guess it's good news for yours truly... Oman + Uzbekistan - my two "teams" in the playoff final... I must admit I question this 3-team playoff format... should've made it 4 teams - would still have finished a playoff with 3 match days... must be kind of frustrating for Syria, had they won this game, they would have still had to wait for the final day result between Oman and Uzbekistan to qualify, and Uzbeks would have had nothing to play for... looking forward to Uzbekistan- Oman though..
I did think this myself, but then for this to happen, the previous stage would have had to have had 4 groups, I'm sure this could have been worked into the equation if really wanted. I guess luck has favoured Oman, Qatar helped them by having their result overturned, and then the draw for this playoff stage to give Oman and extra rest, although to be honest, I don't think rest for young lads matters, they just want to play surely. I did personally feel going into this that Uzbekistan were favorites, but Oman proved me wrong, but then, they have done well fullstop. I remember watching (on TV) them beat China in China, they looked good that day. Now, my worry, 6 of the players are also in the senior side, and if getting to London works, then I guess this might just set the senior side back in the forthcoming WC qualifiers. Anyhoo, I'll be in Coventry for the playoff to support Oman!!!
I didn't expect this result, but looking at match reports from numeorus Omani games, the captain, Al Hadhari (?) looks a decent prospect.
Best of luck to Oman. They'll be playing in roughly 8 hours against Senegal in Coventry, England for a berth in the Olympics. I'll be asleep so won't see it but still it'd be great for Asia if they could qualify.