Seleção 2012 - General discussion and news [R]

Discussion in 'Brazil' started by leonidas, Dec 15, 2011.

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  1. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    I think Dante is gonna be one of those one season wonders... He needs to move a bigger team nonetheless.
     
  2. samuel_clemens

    Dec 20, 2005
    Los Angeles CA
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    this. he may not have done "a lot" wrong but he did wrong at a critical time, and a big wrong at that.

    We took a calculated risk in starting him '10, now we know he's clearly not worth it.
     
  3. IVO !

    IVO ! Member

    Feb 25, 2009
    RIO AND CHICAGO
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    No way in hell. Don't even think about Melo. He was gone for ever after that game. Maybe some of you don't understand Brasilian culture, but WE DO NOT forgive something as crucial as that.
     
  4. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    But you continue to forgive Ronaldinho despite his lack of effort.
     
  5. Denilson70

    Denilson70 Member

    May 29, 2001
    England
    I am not sure even Brazilians know Brazilian culture!
     
  6. IVO !

    IVO ! Member

    Feb 25, 2009
    RIO AND CHICAGO
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Oh that's not very nice Denilson.
    And Benni, lack of effort is one thing; jeopardizing your team to the point of costing your country the World Cup is another. Ronaldinho never cost us the World Cup.
     
  7. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    He's had a huge part in some of our failures. He's never lived up to his club form for the NT since after 02.
     
  8. Kaka10725

    Kaka10725 Member+

    Jun 1, 2007
    We forgave Ronaldinho after the fiasco in 06 btw.

    I didn't mind Melo and don't mind if he was called up but I honestly don't ever expect him to ever where the shirt again. He was crucified by the press after the 10 WC. It would take a big time coach with balls to get him back into the NT fold.
     
  9. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I actually don't mind him at all. I definitely would like him at Flamengo again. Unfortunately, he is doing himself a disservice be playing in Turkey. We honestly don't have a marker like him in our midfield.

    Yes, he screwed up that game for us, but he also had a good play that game -- a beautiful assist to Robinho for the goal.

    I personally have been over what he has done by now. I think most of the people who are still upset at him are usually the casual Seleção fans.
     
  10. scabbt22

    scabbt22 Member

    Feb 14, 2008
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    By calling him up again, who's to say he's not going to do the same exact thing again and jeopardize our team? We all knew that in the WC he was a ticking time-bomb and it was only a matter of time before he exploded and it just so happened at the worst possible time. Yes, his assist to Robinho was very nice but unfortunately his idiotic behavior was what stood out from that game
     
  11. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    As yall probably already know, Martin Palermo's son, Ryduan Palermo, has been called-up to the Argentina U-17 team.

    But what yall probably don't know is that he's also half Brazilian, thanks to his mother. If he's half the striker that his dad is then I wouldn't mind calling him up to the U-17 team.
     
  12. Denilson70

    Denilson70 Member

    May 29, 2001
    England
    I suppose by that reckoning Maradona would not have played in the 1986 Copa after trying to rearrange Batista's 'personal best' in 1982!
     
  13. IVO !

    IVO ! Member

    Feb 25, 2009
    RIO AND CHICAGO
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
  14. leonidas

    leonidas Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    May 25, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    won't hold my breath lol.
     
  15. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    We don't need him. Brazil's recent performances with the U-17 in South America show we have enough of our talent: we have won all the tournaments since 1988 except for 1993 and 2003. No other CONMEBOL team has done as well as we have in the FIFA U-17 World Cup.

    Besides, he was already training with his country's youth divisions as of last summer, as he was then playing for the AFA's 8th Division w/ the youth team of Estudantes da Prata.

    Let the Argentines use him. They'll need him.
     
  16. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Plus he has the "3 PK Misses in one game" gene ... no thanks !
     
  17. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    Fits in just fine with the Brazilian NT then :cool::D
     
  18. Denilson70

    Denilson70 Member

    May 29, 2001
    England
  19. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
  20. NotreDameFlamengo

    Jul 25, 2011
    Raleigh, NC
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    I'm starting to despise Mano. He talks about his doubt of Kaka', and pretty much says he wants to see how he will perform next season. And then he actually goes on to defend Ronaldinho. It's gotten to be fvkking laughable. Ronaldinho wouldn't sniff the field at Madrid, yet Mano praises him and doubts Kaka'. Can someone tell me why? What does R10 have on Mano and the CBF?

    http://sportv.globo.com/site/progra...coes-o-brasil-vai-ter-uma-selecao-pronta.html
     
  21. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    He is right about Kaka'. Doesn't look like he is closing the door on him.

    About Ronaldinho it looks like he knows it was a mistake and he is just covering his ass. The comment about him having a good stretch at Flamengo and the fans would have complained if he didn't call him up says it all. Which is really sad because it seems like he called Ronaldinho more because of fan pressure. That's not how a Selecao coach should act. Either way, Mano or no Mano I am 100% Ronaldinho is not the Selecao's future past 2012.
     
  22. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    trust
     
  23. IVO !

    IVO ! Member

    Feb 25, 2009
    RIO AND CHICAGO
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I don't think there is going to be much fan pressure from my Torcida Raca if Ronaldinho continues to play as he did last night in the Libertadores. But...let us hope Ronaldinho gets back on track. I do know for a fact that he has been partying like crazy lately.

    As to Kaka, I really do think it is a grave mistake not to take him on the US tour. Kaka has been playing consistently well in La Liga and in the UEFA, so what else does Mano want?
     
  24. scabbt22

    scabbt22 Member

    Feb 14, 2008
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I agree. I believe its time to drop Ronaldinho, add Kaka and have Ganso be the starter.
    The big problem is that Mano really did like the Mexico game and he wants to keep the same team. He believes that's the base of our team & unfortunately i must admit that R10 did play well in that game. Do I agree with him? Absolutly not but then again that’s Mano.
     
  25. Denilson70

    Denilson70 Member

    May 29, 2001
    England
    Mano is losing the plot or at least being inconsistent - he is saying Ronaldinho Gaucho has to change - no more missing training (good) and then saying Kaka might feature in 2014 and next season is a big season for him (odd - what about THIS season? - and why pick him in November 2011 and forget him in 2011? Brainless)
     

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