Frauen-Bundesliga Follies 2011

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  1. jocasta

    jocasta Member+

    Oct 11, 2003
    Nat'l Team:
    Sweden
    Thanks for that, by the way, and also of course...

    ... for that. Ha!

    My compliments, Micol, you did a very nice job of Photoshopping down the finger.
     
  2. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Apparently, publicy insulting Landström was a good stategy and made her run and score in subsequent match... :D

    Keeping up with Jocasta's reasonment, though, it probably didn't go the way you think: another player would have reacted because stuck in her pride, but Landström's train of thoughs was probably such as: "Oh my god, coach is basically forced to make me play now, after what he said last week. If I play as lazily as I usually do, he will feel compelled to insult me again after match, and this will be a very embarassing moment for the both of us, but especially for him, because he will look crude and coarse and he will be criticized for his rudeness, as it happened last week on sites like Bigsoccer.com! I must do something to avoid that, or he could even pass for a misogynist because of what he will say about me after match! But what can I do, for heaven's sake? Oh well, let's run around like crazy, like I'd know what I am doing, and, since they all seem to want to put that little white ball into this strange net, hanging from wooden posts, let's pretend I am eager to do it too... Maybe if i manage to actually put it in, they could even be all happy about that :p..."

    Hope I wasn't too far from Jocasta's spirit in interpreting Sweden embarassement's horror... :D

    I am going to be provokative: is it possible that Frankfurt actually plays better without its stars like Bajramaj or Behringer? :eek:
     
  3. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Well if little Meike Weber can get away with decent Bajramaj and Behringer impressions, constantly running past multiple Potsdam players without much of a problem, I think Frankfurt could have left out Angerer and Bartusiak too and still won that game pretty comfortably. Honestly, Frankfurt only looked good as Potsdam were so very bad.

    Frankfurt literally scored their first three goals off the back of a few decent balls into the box. Looking back, once Frankfurt had the three goal advantage, the game was well and truly over. Potsdam really looked second best, almost ponderous in everything they did, and yet I never personally really believed Frankfurt had it won until the 4th goal went in. Crazy.

    Huth had a very good game, but I can't remember seeing Frankfurt needing amazing play or performances that reflect why in the end the score was so lopsided in their favour. I mean Landström even scored with her only shot on goal, after spending most of the game either on the receiving end of her team mates annoyed glares, or getting up off the floor after being man handled by Wesley.

    Lets see what happens when Frankfurt go up against Duisburg next week. I highly doubt Duisburg will role over so easily, but when did the German cup become so low on the big Potsdam list of priorities :(.
     
  4. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    By the way, was Anonma kept out by choice, or was she injured or something?

    Kerchowsky looks fast and has decent technique, but it seemed quite uneffective, aside committing a lot of useless fouls...

    Nagasato was virtually non-existent :p
     
  5. Micol

    Micol Member+

    Sep 16, 2008
  6. Micol

    Micol Member+

    Sep 16, 2008
    And one of three Popp goals against Gütersloh:

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  7. JanBalk

    JanBalk Member+

    Jun 9, 2004
    How beautifully 'lagom' writting it in Swedish so Landis understands it but give the coach a great way to ignore it (hardly have to pretend not understanding Swedish).
     
  8. Micol

    Micol Member+

    Sep 16, 2008
    Both Anonma and Peter were injured. Hanebeck was out with a cold.

    She is fast and her shot is lethal, but she tends not to notice what's going on around her. At one point the commentator said "Now if she were to look up she'd see her teammate free in the middle". That happens to her a lot.
     
  9. jocasta

    jocasta Member+

    Oct 11, 2003
    Nat'l Team:
    Sweden
    Sigh. Yes, that's the general idea (although I always assume that nobody reads BigSoccer or gives a good gosh-darn about it), and yes, it's been that way for a while. (That link goes to the FIFA pictures of the Sweden-Colombia WWC game; in the very first one, Schelin really does look she's trying to explain something to Landström, and is concerned that Landström might not fully understand what she's getting at.)

    Right, well I'm on #TeamLandis (actual hashtag I saw somewhere) as much as anyone is, at least as long as she's playing in Germany and certainly when she's playing against Potsdam. But let's take a cold-eyed look at this. So several days (of presumably sitting and steaming) after receiving some rather harsh criticism, she unexpectedly started, and scored, in the 82nd minute, the fifth goal of a 5-1 Cup match against a Potsdam team that by all accounts I've read was complete crap on the day.

    I'm just saying, that's not exactly a redemption-and-career-path-altering sort of performance.
     
  10. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I thought it was obvious i was fully ironic also about that ^__^

    Lol, that was actually hilarious and I didn't see this pic the first time around :D
    Well, let's say Landström doesn't exactly look like a fast-learner... :D

    Totally agree, but the occasion was too much delicious to not create some drama about it... :p
    The irony is that probably she actually thinks: "Man, did I show SOMETHING, yeah!!!" and she feels totally revenged... now she can peacefully sit back on the bench doing nothing for the next 4-5 months...
     
  11. Micol

    Micol Member+

    Sep 16, 2008
    [​IMG]

    Note the Swedish flag...
     
  12. mumf

    mumf Member+

    Nov 7, 2008
    About Kershowsky, that is how I would describe her too....physically strong but not much of a footballer really. I also have to agree with some of the statements on Landstrom, she was so so inferior to Garefrekes.

    I think Anonma and Peter were sorely missed, and the other Potsdam players could not make up the difference. Zietz played just OK with some missed passes, and was accompanied by Nagasato at MF (who also played quite well, to my eyes, blissett take note - in fact she was DF-ing at times too, very fit player). I thought Mittag was poor, in fact much like Landstrom.

    And was it batfink who posted about little Weber? Yes batfink that was the same game I saw, completely agree with all your analysis Other little Frankfurt players doing extremely well were Huth (who scored a cracking header to open the floodgates) and Perceival. Its a strange team of giants and dwarfs.
     
  13. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I thought Potsdam had a squad that could deal with absentees, no mater how important. Maybe this recent performance explains why yet another major talent in Margret Lara Vidarsdottir is joining the team.

    It was funny seeing Krieger and Bartusiak bounce of her when trying to get physical. It's a shame neither of the Kerschowski lived up to the early potential, they have unique amounts of power and pace in everything they do, but like you suggest they also have issues with field awareness.
     
  14. Micol

    Micol Member+

    Sep 16, 2008
    Twin sister Monique now even plays in Potsdam's B team. It has to be said, though, that they've both also struggled a lot with injuries (including torn ACLs).

    According to fansoccer.de, Potsdam coach Schröder said in the press conference after the Frankfurt-Potsdam game that the reason why Frankfurt played so well was that Bajramaj wasn't there. :eek:
     
  15. Micol

    Micol Member+

    Sep 16, 2008
    It must be such fun to be a keeper sometimes...
    (This was Lok Leipzig, playing their cup match against Hamburg. And they lost.)

    [​IMG]
     
  16. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Well it is kind of obvious :p
     
  17. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    LOL, who knew Schröder could be so bitchy. I personally think that Bajramaj has regressed ever since that first link about her leaving Potsdam came out. Since she caught the star bug and decided to leave Potsdam for the bright lights Frankfurt, Bajramaj has not been the decisive factor in the outcome of games like she used to be.

    Schröder knows that if Bajramaj plays last Sunday, a poor Potsdam get a few more than 6 put past them. He got the best from her, and now he's trying to play naughty mind games, but it's been done after a crafty wink with his tongue firmly tucked into his grumpy old man cheek.
     
  18. Smulan

    Smulan Member

    Apr 3, 2008
    Who knew he could be anything but? :confused: The man is famous for his sharp tongue. On this occasion, surely he's just saying what everybody else is thinking? :D
     
  19. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Yeah, no doubt. Everybody is thinking it, and some would hope it were even true too, but her talent and resulting ascent with Duisburg and then Potsdam suggests otherwise.

    After a heavy defeat to his major rival, Schröder deflects attention from his own side by coming up with his best tactical decision of the day. It's probably one of his better moment's as a grumpy pain in the arse too.

    Questioning Bajramaj's role of importance during Frankfurt's period of transition puts more doubt into the minds of her team mates, coach, fans, and best of all the player her self. I don't think he meant it, but it's genius.
     
  20. Smulan

    Smulan Member

    Apr 3, 2008
    How long does "talent" last, when effort subsides? What have you seen since Duisburg? I've heard it pointed out by individual commentators that she was fabulous at Potsdam: I must have missed that. She had her moments, but you don't succeed purely on moments. Since she's been at Frankfurt, I generally think that she's in the way. Maroszan (even with her injury) has been a more valuable player for Frankfurt, in my opinion. Maybe you see every match whereas I only see a certain amount per season live and on TV, but Bajramaj has never seemed to me like the saviour she's been made out to be. I'm more concerned about the Behringer slump, I have to say.
     
  21. Micol

    Micol Member+

    Sep 16, 2008
    She had a great first season in Potsdam. Since then, not so much - not just since she announced her move to Frankfurt. I was hoping that she'd start shining again there, consistently, but it hasn't happened. Nor in the national team, as a matter of fact.

    Me too. And that has been going on since she joined Frankfurt. A lengthy injury (was it in her early Frankfurt days?) didn't help, but she has seemed out of place ever since she left Bayern.

    And I was very surprised to hear that she already turned 26 the other day. She seems like one of those eternal youngsters - but in fact she probably should have reached her top performance level and maturity by now.
     
  22. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Micol says what I would have said. While I haven't seen all her games, her first season at Potsdam was genuinely great. She was the quickest and strongest Bajramaj we have seen thus far, and at that point her end product was some of the most creative in the whole of the women's game. There's been a steady decline since Frankfurt came calling.

    After seeing the rise of Popp, were all waiting to see Maroszan do the same. I felt she wouldn't come into her own until Prinz left, making room for the side to eventually be built around what she can do. Problem for her now though is that Bajramaj has now come in to the side, with the most likely outcome that the team eventually works for what Bajramaj needs to function best.
     
  23. Micol

    Micol Member+

    Sep 16, 2008
    Even before - that whole second season was nothing special.
     
  24. Smulan

    Smulan Member

    Apr 3, 2008
    The pre-break part of the first season, surely? I don't remember the second part being particularly glorious, but that could be because it all seems like such a loooong time ago.
     
  25. Micol

    Micol Member+

    Sep 16, 2008
    You may have a point there. Before the winter break of that season, Bajramaj scored 11 goals, Mittag 13. By the end of the season, Bajramaj had 16, Mittag 17, which is proportionately less more.
    Less more. Well, you know what I mean. :eek:
     

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