Democratic Failure Thread

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by MasterShake29, Mar 27, 2011.

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  1. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Boo, freakin’ hoo. Detroit was once the richest city in the nation, and despite that advantage its liberal leaders didn’t have the foresight to attract other industries. Whose fault it that?

    And beginning with the Model Cities Program, Detroit has been the beneficiary of every liberal urban planning scheme conceived, yet it is crumbling today . The city is a testament to the failure of these well intentioned but destructive programs. Add unions to the mix and you’ve got a complete disaster.
     
  2. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Exactly.
     
  3. Claymore

    Claymore Member

    Jul 9, 2000
    Montgomery Vlg, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Invisible hand of the something something...help me out here?
     
  4. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    You’re blaming Detroit’s decline on Adam Smith’s invisible hand? :D

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk"]You keep using that word. - YouTube[/ame]

    Ju keep jusing dat phrase, I do not think dat phrase means what ju think it means.
     
  5. Kobranzilla

    Kobranzilla Member

    Sep 6, 2001
    NY F'in City
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    you are a simpleton...let's leave it at that since you are obviously incapable of understanding complex problems
     
  6. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Why don't you explain Detroit's decay in terms a child can understand. That shouldn't be too difficult, should it?

    Through my simpleton view I see the richest city in the richest nation reduced to a shell in less than 50 years and I'd like to understand why? You're smart, I'm not, so explain it.
     
  7. Kobranzilla

    Kobranzilla Member

    Sep 6, 2001
    NY F'in City
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    you are a partisan hack who wishes to reduce everything to a simple red and blue...go figure it out yourself and let me know what you find

    since i grew up there I can critique your research and offer guidance on how to improve it

    good luck!
     
  8. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Once again, you don't know what's truly going as to why Detroit is the way it is.

    Kobran can confirm it, I can confirm as to what's really hurting Detroit. Comments like yours are similar to the ones every other writer/person (Regardless of their political leanings) makes despite not being to the city or only being there once or twice.
     
  9. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Explain it then, I'll listen. Korban is either lazy or can't explain it.
     
  10. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    1. The Big Three.

    2. The city and the state being reliant on one industry. This city could be a huge influence in tech and medicine if they got their shit together. Instead, people are still clinging to the past. Goes for both parties.

    3. White flight and people leaving the city. Which leads to my next point...

    4. City vs. the Suburbs. There's a bitterness between the two.
     
  11. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    That is a ton of doom. Can the city overcome all this?
     
  12. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pittsburgh did.
     
  13. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Tax cuts, austerity and relief from regulation.

    Oh yeah, and tort reform.

    Spruce the place right up...
     
  14. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Another largely Democratic, Union-centric city. Hmmmm.
     
  15. uclacarlos

    uclacarlos Member+

    Aug 10, 2003
    east coast
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    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    You just short-circuited VFish's brain. How cruel!
     
  16. uclacarlos

    uclacarlos Member+

    Aug 10, 2003
    east coast
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    I debated long and hard (at least 14 seconds!!!) on whether to put this in DFT or GOPFT, but it's a stunningly indictment of the failures of Obama's presidency from even before he announced his candidacy.

    The following chart is from Mitt Romney's jobsjobsJOBS Plan, and it quite clearly shows that Obama was a failure b4 even taking office:

    [​IMG]

    Psssst: Romney.... Dubbya was presidente back in 2007, 2008 and even into early 2009


    Copied from ThinkProgress here.
     
  17. Kobranzilla

    Kobranzilla Member

    Sep 6, 2001
    NY F'in City
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am not going to waste time arguing a claim that is inherently flawed and overly simplistic

    that you believe it is either an act of blind allegiance, or willful ignorance

    that you try and reduce a situation that is so complex to a blue state/red state thing shows how little you know about the situation...so yea...I have better things to do than engage with you on this...
     
  18. Claymore

    Claymore Member

    Jul 9, 2000
    Montgomery Vlg, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Teabagger response: WHEN WILL OBAMA STOP BLAMING BUSH!!!!!!! derp derp.
     
  19. billyireland

    billyireland Member+

    May 4, 2003
    Sydney, Australia
    Read the Kathy Giffords thread, the last 10-15 posts will explain to you why Obama is at fault for what happened in 2007. ;)
     
  20. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
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    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  21. CHICO13

    CHICO13 Moderator
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    Oct 4, 2001
    SECTION 135
    Club:
    The Strongest La Paz
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    Bolivia
  22. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Detroit’s decay can be mesmerizingly beautiful:

    [​IMG]


    Sad, but mesmerizing.
     
  23. tomwilhelm

    tomwilhelm Member+

    Dec 14, 2005
    Boston, MA, USA
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    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ruin porn is good like that.
     
  24. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Some Democrats (well, at least this one) don't respect free speech.

    The MTA is a public agency. A politician is demanding that an advertisement be removed because he objects to it.

    Luckily, he's being told (in politician speak) to go die in a fire.

     
  25. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It happens, when atheist billboards started popping up, some politicians also called for their removal, it happens.

    Good for the MTA!
     

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