Pro Evolution Soccer 2012: What would you improve if you were Konami?

Discussion in 'Games' started by thedragonrik58, Jul 26, 2011.

  1. thedragonrik58

    thedragonrik58 Member+

    Los Angeles Football Club
    Mexico
    Jul 5, 2011
    Palmdale
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Just voice your personal issues with the previous game and offer new ideas to how the game could be made better:

    1. They need to put more emphasis on expanding the create-a-stadium mode. Like being able to edit how nets are tight or loose, being able to create banners, etc.

    2. They also should include in Become a Legend a real-life training mode, where you are doing actual training drills instead of just practice matches.

    3. In the extras, they should have match balls from the past instead of stupid excuses for balls suchs as the candy and the pillow/trash bag.

    4. They need to expand to the North American top soccer leagues such as MLS and FMF. They already sort of included the Mexican teams from the Copa Libertadores, but only in that particular mode.

    5. Raise the volume of the soundtrack before and during the games. I was able to put the FIFA anthem for the International Cup (World Cup) mode, but it is barely heard even if you take off the commentary and the stadium SFX.

    That is all for now, but please anyone who enjoys playing this game, voice your opinions.
     
  2. PhantomTollbooth

    PhantomTollbooth New Member

    Jul 20, 2004
    Appleton, WI
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    My wish list:

    1. Fully Licensed MLS, with the ability to use those teams in the Master League.
    2. Positional skill 'pre-sets' for different types of players to streamline the player creation process. Why do I have to start with everything being 50....
    3. J-League and FMF would be fun too.
     
  3. thedragonrik58

    thedragonrik58 Member+

    Los Angeles Football Club
    Mexico
    Jul 5, 2011
    Palmdale
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    (MLS and FMF) are my wishes too, I am forced to make every single one of those teams in each league every year. Hey but in the end it's all worth it, :).
     
  4. dsarchs

    dsarchs New Member

    Aug 11, 2011
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    The main thing I would like to see added is depth to the leagues. The correct names/players and even updated stats can be fixed with patches (PC) but I'd like to be able to start as a 3rd or 4th division team and slowly work my way up to the top level.
     
  5. PonosBosne

    PonosBosne Red Card

    Jan 11, 2011
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    MLS? There are people that place with MLS teams? (Major Learning Support) :eek::rolleyes: haha just messing around.


    Anyways for PES, I would change the whole game make it close as possible to FIFA and get rid of the gay ass cartoon graphics, I mean whats up with that? And I would go back to that PES when David Beckham was on the cover, and do things like you could change your whole uniform how you want it to look like, change your whole stadium, create clubs, create boots....


    Then PES would be rocken but right now it's worthless.
     
  6. thedragonrik58

    thedragonrik58 Member+

    Los Angeles Football Club
    Mexico
    Jul 5, 2011
    Palmdale
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I don't know whether you are a PES hater (no offense), or you just don't know anything about PES. :confused:

    PES is all about creating an entire uniform, creating your own clubs, and most recently, creating stadiums. They give you so many options, like creating team logos, creating leagues, creating uniforms, creating stadiums, and of course, creating your own players. Also, you can maximize capabilities on any player in the game, real or fictitious. Although you are correct on creating your own boots, I miss that option.

    FIFA, on the other hand, only allows you to creat players and more recently your own team and its uniform. But it is very limited on be able to create logos and uniforms, not even close to the # of options that PES has to offer.

    Get the game, buddy, and you'll see what I'm talking about.
    Don't just say something and pretend like you know what you're talking about. Actually get your facts straight, please.
     
  7. PonosBosne

    PonosBosne Red Card

    Jan 11, 2011
    Club:
    Manchester United FC

    Yeah I understand that because gives you the option to create stuff. But I'm not going to get the game just so I can create crap. I want it to be realistic game play and graphics real life almost like. While PES game play is just terrible and weird and it's graphics are totally not really, they are anime cartoon graphics what Japan does the best.
     
  8. thedragonrik58

    thedragonrik58 Member+

    Los Angeles Football Club
    Mexico
    Jul 5, 2011
    Palmdale
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Ok, that makes a little more sense. :)

    Well honestly, I don't know how much better they could get. They put great detail on the licensed team uniforms and its players. Plus, PS3 graphics are pretty realistic to me, idk if you have Xbox 360 or PS3. The gameplay speed, if this is what you are complaining about, can be edited in the options to be faster or slower.

    The only thing they could actually improve are the amount of teams/leagues they have licensed, making Become a Legend more realistic, and adding more options on creating stadiums, and being able to edit the stadiums that are already put in the game.
     
  9. PonosBosne

    PonosBosne Red Card

    Jan 11, 2011
    Club:
    Manchester United FC

    I use PS3 also, and I'm aware of the game speed option but I'm not talking about that bro, I'm talking about how they play on the pitch an crap like that. And again if you look at FIFA 11 and PES 11 they have totally different graphics, in my opinion FIFA 11 hands down better. That is why the sells our out of this world man.
     
  10. thedragonrik58

    thedragonrik58 Member+

    Los Angeles Football Club
    Mexico
    Jul 5, 2011
    Palmdale
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Oh yeah, I am well aware that the graphics between the two games are totally different.

    But I must disagree with you on the FIFA gameplay because every time I see people play against the CPU or against each other, it is more or less like a game of seesaw (you have the ball, suddenly they unrealistically steal the ball, back and forth over and over again). In PES, at least there is space for you to pass, therefore the game can be more spectacular.
     
  11. PonosBosne

    PonosBosne Red Card

    Jan 11, 2011
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Hmm since I do not know what you are talking about, I cannot comment on that. :/
     
  12. thedragonrik58

    thedragonrik58 Member+

    Los Angeles Football Club
    Mexico
    Jul 5, 2011
    Palmdale
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I've played both games and I've noticed that if you make a run in FIFA, the other team will stop you right away, and then you'll stop him right away. It's very inconsistent.

    In PES, it gives you at least a chance to get passed the player that tries to steal the ball from you.
     
  13. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    True, i had play both and depend on the style that you like.

    In Pes is "easier" to break the defensive line with pases, with fifa is much harder unless the other team makes a mistake, also to drible in Fifa is harder than PES.

    Me Personaly to score on FIFA i use a lot of crosses, on PES is more through balls.

    Love Fifa but PES has its ppl, depends of each person
     
  14. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Btw, hope they put more south American Leages, if they do that i deff go with PES
     
  15. thedragonrik58

    thedragonrik58 Member+

    Los Angeles Football Club
    Mexico
    Jul 5, 2011
    Palmdale
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Honestly, I think PES should concentrate on licensing the most prominent leagues of each confederation. They already do that with La Liga, Liga Calcio, and partially, the EPL.

    They should try the Argentinean and Brazilian leagues from CONMEBOL, MLS and FMF from CONCACAF, etc.

    And honestly, who gives a crap about the French League, Ligue 1? I mean, why license a league no one cares about?
     
  16. RiverGaucho

    RiverGaucho Member+

    Jan 23, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    its not just the french league but they have the dutch league too... no one cares about these leagues

    they need to get argentina, brasil and mexico more teams maybe like the top few frm the other leagues in CONMEBOL even if they aren't in the libertadores
     
  17. thedragonrik58

    thedragonrik58 Member+

    Los Angeles Football Club
    Mexico
    Jul 5, 2011
    Palmdale
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Now you're talking!!! Well said, RiverGaucho.
     
  18. burning_phoneix

    Jul 13, 2008
    Saudi Arabia
    Club:
    Al Wehda Mecca
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    My personal wishlist is just two things:

    #1 Better AI. Both friendly and opposing AIs. The AI in 2011 does a lot of schoolboy errors

    #2 More depth in Become a Legend Mode. I love this mode but right now it's kind of boring...just play game after game after game and occasional something happens. Perhaps some more RPG elements like the MLB Power Pros series also made by Konami.
     
  19. Petersontj

    Petersontj Member

    Jul 24, 2011
    NYC
    Club:
    Ft Lauderdale Strikers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Very much so. Mind boggling are the errors made sometimes, like a second striker randomly stopping a supporting run when past all defenders but behind the center forward.
     
  20. DanFla

    DanFla Member

    Apr 18, 2010
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Need improve:

    They need to improve the ball control, when the player receive a high ball pass.

    Improve the quick faults.

    Penalty mechanical

    Referees
     
  21. thedragonrik58

    thedragonrik58 Member+

    Los Angeles Football Club
    Mexico
    Jul 5, 2011
    Palmdale
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    That's exactly why I got bored of Become a Legend, it's like you said, "game after game." I wish you could do press conferences or something. Or like you do actual training sessions instead of just practice games.
     
  22. GrandeSoccer

    GrandeSoccer Member+

    Jun 20, 2010
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Looking forward to this one!

    A couple of wishes, mostly visual stuff.

    I hope Brazil is licensed this time though, that was one of the reasons (among others) I didn't get PES 2011. They didn't have their real uniforms or anything. That's just wrong, how do you not license one of the most famous teams in history? I also wish Mexico's squad had its roster with their real faces. The only PES I have is 2008 and Mexico was pretty much ignored by the devs when it comes to detail in that game so I never really picked them.

    I know if you bought the PC version you can go all out with mods for faces/uniforms/etc. but I'm getting it for the 360. :p
     
  23. burning_phoneix

    Jul 13, 2008
    Saudi Arabia
    Club:
    Al Wehda Mecca
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    I agree with those two points. The first touch on many players is atrocious and needs to be improved.

    Also, BRING BACK OLD PENALTIES! Whenever me and my mates are playing and one of us has a clean shot on goal.....we commit penalties because they're so hard to score! :D

    Actually, you can get mods for 360 and PS3 as well!
     
  24. proximo99

    proximo99 New Member

    Aug 21, 2011
    Club:
    AC Milan
    good...........
     
  25. burning_phoneix

    Jul 13, 2008
    Saudi Arabia
    Club:
    Al Wehda Mecca
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    Some screenshots from Gamescom:

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    Looking great!

    Also, old style penalties are back...sort of.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQiQEHWMVOw"]PES 2012 Gameplay Video 11 - Penalty Kicks - YouTube[/ame]
     

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