mike jeffries to direct player personnel

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  1. Fanaddict

    Fanaddict Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    streamwood IL USA
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    Curious timing.

    It's not yet known how Jeffries' hiring will affect the status of Klopas or coach Carlos de los Cobos.

    Isn't player personnel the primary part of Frank's job? Since a president was just hired and Jeffries is brought into this position, I think it might be bye, bye Frank.

    He may very well be a scapegoat as I think many decisions were forced on him. Clearly Martinez and Umanzor were Carlos picks. Ljungberg was all Hauptmann and from what I have heard, Castillo was above Frank as well.

    Oh well. You got to fire someone, right? Too bad its a great guy and R of F member. Now, before we put the broom away, there is one more carefully coiffed individual to sweep out.
     
  3. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe Klopas or Jeffries is going to be CDLC's replacement next year.

    #1 Klopas remains TD and Jeffries takes over coaching the team.
    #2 Jeffries is going to become the new TD and Klopas takes over coaching the team.
    #3 Klopas is FIRED, Jeffries is new TD and they give CDLC one more year.
    #4 CDLC and Klopas both get FIRED.
     
  4. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Jefferies is going to be below Klopas on the pecking order. He'll fly around and scout players before Klopas makes the final call. If Jefferies were around last year he would have scouted Umanzor and Martinez before the Fire signed them.

    At least, that's how I understand things.
     
  5. I am really glad you have nothing to do with running the team.
     
  6. LIZZIE

    LIZZIE BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 18, 2001
    Sec 126
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why Jeffries? Can't see him as a replacement for CDLC. He does have history with the Fire, but had a rather unsuccessful time as head coach of the Burn
     
  7. giggshasscored

    Jun 5, 2004
    Omaha
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed. I doubt the hire has much consideration of transitioning Jeffries to head coach, but maybe there is some liking to the thought he's work out as an interim coach if CDLC left prematurely to go back to El Salvador NT.

    I would also hope CDLC gets more time with the Fire for anyone thinking he should be gone in the offseason. It takes time. Too many managers are being scapegoated before they have the chance for success.
     
  8. Chris Doran

    Chris Doran Member

    Apr 29, 2002
    Bloomington, IN
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I had the pleasure of seeing Mike and meeting his wife last week and while he was upbeat about the possibilities of helping the club on some level, things hadn't been confirmed as of 8 days ago.

    That said, I think it's important to note how big this club has become below the first team. The PDL, the Academy and the Juniors; player recruiting, training, retention and for a few, signing; the possibility of returning a reserve division to MLS; and the competition for talent have made the operation of a proper MLS club very complicated.

    Say what you will about Mike's stint in Dallas, he's one of the good guys. He's local and he understands how the league works with regards to personnel. As of now he's an available soccer guy who would be valuable in a lot of capacities for the FIRE.
     
  9. Fonsos

    Fonsos Member

    Sep 21, 2000
    Chicago
    This is the BEST FIRE news I've heard all week-end. Those of you with the negative criticisms of Jeffries have no idea how good he is. This is the smartest move this club has made all season. Will they let Jeffries do his job? If so, then I'm excited as hell for next season, if not then it won't matter.

    FYI, Jeffries is so highly thought of in soccer circles that HE scouted teams for Bob Bradley before last summer's World Cup. I think that definitely proves he's the man for the job.

    Mike, welcome back!!!!!

    :D
    Fonsos
     
  10. ratdog

    ratdog Member+

    Mar 22, 2004
    In the doghouse
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Considering how blatantly unprepared we were at the start of every one of those games, I'm not sure that counts as a ringing endorsement.

    Still, we need to do SOMETHING to stop the free fall.
     
  11. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mike Jeffries has a good eye for talent and a sharp tactical mind, so I think he'll do well in a Director of Player Personnel role.

    He's just not a very good leader of men, which is why his head coaching tenure in Dallas did not end well.
     
  12. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    If we ever win the Brimstone Cup back we're melting it down.
     
  13. Fonsos

    Fonsos Member

    Sep 21, 2000
    Chicago
    I'm sorry who would you have preferred to take on this role?


    Fonsos
     
  14. Fonsos

    Fonsos Member

    Sep 21, 2000
    Chicago
    Did you play under him or know something the rest of us don't know?
    I guess the same applies to Stevie Nicol in New England.

    Luv the blanket statements without any support to back up the comment.

    Fonsos
     
  15. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is what was told to me by the man who hired him in 2001 and fired him in 2003.

    I'll go with his assessment.
     
  16. ratdog

    ratdog Member+

    Mar 22, 2004
    In the doghouse
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Someone with international experience or who was at least familiar with our group opponents.

    I mean, you can't argue that we started each game with the wrong players and tactics seeing as we promptly gave up the lead in the first two games, kept Algeria in the game until the dying moments and completely screwed the pooch against Ghana. When you're relying on sheer player grit and miraculous comebacks for results, that does not speak well of your scouting and game prep now, does it?
     
  17. alf

    alf Member+

    Jun 29, 1999
    Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    I thought Kubik did the scouting on the other teams.
     
  18. Fonsos

    Fonsos Member

    Sep 21, 2000
    Chicago
    1. Sorry for my smart ass remarks earlier. Seriously, it was spill over from a foul mood at the time.

    Ok, now my continued 2 cents -- LOL
    You bring up almost a good point but neglect the fact that scouts provide the information. Execution is solely on the players. I'll use the example of Ricardo Clark's Stupidity on another level in the Ghana match to illustrate my point. No scouting report in the world can prevent that type of stupidity.

    Fonsos
     
  19. Fonsos

    Fonsos Member

    Sep 21, 2000
    Chicago
    We're all entitled to our opinions but he's one of the better ones around hands down.

    Fonsos
     
  20. Fonsos

    Fonsos Member

    Sep 21, 2000
    Chicago
    He did.

    I'm not sure how many were used to help scout. There are quite a few scouts used by Bob and prior to him Bruce used a few as well. You have to if you're gonna do it right.

    Fonsos
     
  21. Iceblink

    Iceblink Member

    Oct 11, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    "Psssssst..... Bob.... Checked out Ghana. It's totally in Africa."
     
  22. Fonsos

    Fonsos Member

    Sep 21, 2000
    Chicago
    Nun, un!!!
    It's in West Africa
    Ghana West Africa
    -- Actually, everytime I meet a Ghananian and they say I'm from Ghana West Africa, the first thing that comes to mind is "...there's one in East Africa.."

    Being a smart ass knows has no boundaries

    :D
    Fonsos
     
  23. Der Stich

    Der Stich Member+

    May 3, 2005
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Thanks for the insight.

    Edit: Btw, perhaps Jeffries will help with the reserve league team next season?
     

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