If USL get Orlando, will NASL get Jacksonville ?

Discussion in 'Jacksonville Armada FC' started by TheHun, May 16, 2010.

  1. TheHun

    TheHun Member

    May 5, 2005
    Looks like Orlando will revive the Lions for 2011.

    Will Jacksonville go USL or will they opt for NASL ?

    Tea Men ? Cyclones ? FC Jacksonville ?
     
  2. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who says Orlando is reviving the Lions? Because Dillon is involved?
     
  3. TheHun

    TheHun Member

    May 5, 2005
    I don't know ... will they come up with another "catchy" name ?

    why do teams insist on some Wiz, Burn, Clash names to start a new club ?
     
  4. CCSUltra

    CCSUltra Member+

    Nov 18, 2008
    Cleveland
    Club:
    Hertha BSC Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is there even any interest in a team in Jacksonville?
     
  5. brentgoulet

    brentgoulet Member+

    Oct 12, 2005
    PuertoPlata, DomRep

    Does the Gator Bowl still exist? The Tea Men played there, did't they?
     
  6. TheHun

    TheHun Member

    May 5, 2005
    No - the Gator Bowl went by the way of the wrecking ball.

    But JAX has several things going for it - no other sports scene: The Jaguars have outpriced themselves; there claims to be the largest adult soccer league in the state.

    There is excellent real estate still available in the region. None of which in itself makes a club, but the Teamen were a late move in the history of MLS.

    JAX has hosted the national team on several occasions and it would be an excellent regional rivalry to Orlando, Tampa, Atlanta and Ft. Lauderdale.

    They were briefly on the short list to host the World Cup for 2018 / 2022.

    However, I suspect that a Div. 2 or Div. 3 club might be practicle for the area.
     
  7. SJAnfield

    SJAnfield New Member

    Jul 2, 2004
    San Jose
    Because Nike has way too much power
     
  8. brentgoulet

    brentgoulet Member+

    Oct 12, 2005
    PuertoPlata, DomRep
    the Tea Men ain't coming back, they are alive and kicking in the NPSL
     
  9. DavidP

    DavidP Member

    Mar 21, 1999
    Powder Springs, GA
    Sort of; they basically gutted the Gator Bowl (leveling all but the newer part), and used its skeleton to build the "Whatever They Call it Now" Stadium. I have very bad memories of the old Gator Bowl; standing at parade rest (more like "Parade shiver") on the Gator Bowl field at band show in November 1980 (MBA Grand National Championship; what is now BOA). It's wet, cold, and some genius thought it'd be a good idea to turn the stadium lights off and have a fireworks show. We froze our butts off out there, and only got 9th freakin' place out of twelve. The fact that we sort of sucked that year is completely beside the point. :D
     
  10. DavidP

    DavidP Member

    Mar 21, 1999
    Powder Springs, GA
    Would you want to draw 2500-3500, if that many, in a 80,000+ seat stadium? There has to be somewhere else in Jax where they could play.
     
  11. dstefano36

    dstefano36 New Member

    May 17, 2010
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Why is Orlando going with the USL in the first place? Didn't have the 1st Division lost half their membership because of poor league management from USL?
     
  12. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Because the Titans Lacrosse team president, Steve Donner has a lot of history with making the Rochester Rhinos successful (and partly to blame for them tanking). Also, the Central FL Kraze, a USL PDL team, is also involved with this club. So past success and USL being desperate is pretty much why (IMO) Orlando is going with USL.
     
  13. brentgoulet

    brentgoulet Member+

    Oct 12, 2005
    PuertoPlata, DomRep
    2,500 or 3,500 fans in a 80 K stadium would look awful, plus the rent would probably kill the franchise
     
  14. dstefano36

    dstefano36 New Member

    May 17, 2010
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I think that potential owners are becoming sophisticated enough to understand that they are throwing their money in a black hole if there isn't a good stadium plan to support the team. Does anyone know if an owner or group has shown interest in a Jax team? Rumor out of St. Louis is that AC may be folding soon. That would not show well for NASL, or for 2nd Division soccer in general. Anyone else heard anything about that?
     
  15. brentgoulet

    brentgoulet Member+

    Oct 12, 2005
    PuertoPlata, DomRep
    That would be awful
     
  16. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What? :eek: No, where did you hear that? That's ridONKilous.
     
  17. MLSinSTL

    MLSinSTL Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Mar 20, 2009
    Ohio - near a city
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This rumor is spreading pretty quickly. I have yet to see any sources so I'll just ignore it until someone can prove something or anything.

    I will say there is a thread dedicated to this and it has nothing except typical BS speculation.
     
  18. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just read it and agreed. The best info I got out of that thread was #1-someone started the rumor via a call in to a radio show and #2- some posters are overly excited about Game #2 drop in attendance and $1 deal for crappy tickets.
     
  19. Innocent Bystander

    Innocent Bystander New Member

    Apr 15, 2005
    How about this place?
    Two downsides are the track and I think there is a AMNRL team playing there in the summer already.

    http://www.unfospreys.com/sports/2007/11/14/facilitieshodges.aspx
     
  20. law5guy

    law5guy Member

    Jun 26, 2001

    Yep... so late they never made the MLS bus stop. lol

    They were in the original incarnation of the NASL, having been relocated there from New England.
     
  21. brentgoulet

    brentgoulet Member+

    Oct 12, 2005
    PuertoPlata, DomRep
    They only lasted for 2 more seasons in Jacksonville
     
  22. DavidP

    DavidP Member

    Mar 21, 1999
    Powder Springs, GA
  23. TheHun

    TheHun Member

    May 5, 2005
    that was my error - I meant to say NASL. Jacksonville got the Teamen franchise from New England.

    However, the league was on the decline by the time they hit Florida.

    Still, they did do well in their short lived ASL - where they won the Championship in 1983.

    I did read AC St. Louis was in financial difficulties. But that could just be sour grapes from unfriendly media.
     
  24. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not sure you can call IMS unfriendly media.
     
  25. BILLSAJA

    BILLSAJA New Member

    May 17, 2010
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    College campus = no booze
     

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