2010 Winter Olympics Medal Count

Discussion in 'Olympics' started by riverplate, Feb 13, 2010.

  1. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
    Corona, Queens
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Total Medal Count (after 2 days)

    United States: 1-1-2 4
    South Korea: 1-1-0 2
    Netherlands: 1-0-0 1
    Slovakia: 1-0-0 1
    Switzerland: 1-0-0 1
    Canada: 0-1-0 1
    Germany: 0-1-0 1
    Poland: 0-1-0 1
    Austria: 0-0-1 1
    France: 0-0-1 1
    Russia: 0-0-1 1
     
  2. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
    Corona, Queens
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Total Medal Count (after 3 days)

    United States: 1-2-3 6
    Germany: 1-3-0 4
    France: 2-0-1 3
    Canada: 1-1-1 3
    South Korea: 1-1-0 2
    Italy: 0-0-2 2
    Czech Republic: 1-0-0 1
    Netherlands: 1-0-0 1
    Slovakia: 1-0-0 1
    Switzerland: 1-0-0 1
    Australia: 0-1-0 1
    Norway: 0-1-0 1
    Poland: 0-1-0 1
    Austria: 0-0-1 1
    Croatia: 0-0-1 1
    Russia: 0-0-1 1
     
  3. Caesar

    Caesar Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Oztraya
    Interesting that you are ranking by total medals. Is that an American thing? I've never seen it before.

    Over here the medal table is always ranked by number of gold, with the lesser medals being tiebreakers. Thus your second table would read France, Germany, USA, Canada, Korea.
     
  4. Prawn Sandwich

    Oct 1, 2003
    Bhutan
    Hehe - I remember the bun fight over this during Beijing. Apparently the US are just about the only country to rank on the basis of total medal count with no difference in value being assigned between gold, silver and bronze
     
  5. Footer Phooter

    Jul 23, 2000
    Falls Church, VA
    Yes, but we've been consistent that way for a long time.
     
  6. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
    Corona, Queens
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Total Medal Count (after 4 days)

    United States: 2-2-4 8
    Germany: 1-3-1 5
    France: 2-0-2 4
    Canada: 1-2-1 4
    Switzerland: 3-0-0 3
    South Korea: 2-1-0 3
    Norway: 0-2-1 3
    Italy: 0-1-2 3
    China: 1-1-0 2
    Czech Republic: 1-0-1 2
    Japan: 0-1-1 2
    Netherlands: 1-0-0 1
    Slovakia: 1-0-0 1
    Sweden: 1-0-0 1
    Australia: 0-1-0 1
    Estonia: 0-1-0 1
    Poland: 0-1-0 1
    Austria: 0-0-1 1
    Croatia: 0-0-1 1
    Russia: 0-0-1 1
     
  7. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    So Switzerland in first-place then... :D
     
  8. Breakwood

    Breakwood Member

    Mar 23, 2004
    Toronto, Canada
    Canada ranks them by whatever system ranks them higher :eek: It's really lame. I've always understood it to be, the country with most golds is ranked #1. Any other way rewards failure. Why not count 4th and 5th place finishes as well?
     
  9. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
    Corona, Queens
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Total Medal Count (after 5 days)

    Germany: 3-4-2 9
    United States: 2-2-4 8
    France: 2-1-4 7
    Canada: 2-2-1 5
    South Korea: 3-1-0 4
    Switzerland: 3-0-1 4
    China: 1-1-1 3
    Austria: 0-2-1 3
    Norway: 0-2-1 3
    Italy: 0-1-2 3
    Sweden: 2-0-0 2
    Slovakia: 1-1-0 2
    Czech Republic: 1-0-1 2
    Japan: 0-1-1 2
    Netherlands: 1-0-0 1
    Australia: 0-1-0 1
    Estonia: 0-1-0 1
    Poland: 0-1-0 1
    Croatia: 0-0-1 1
    Russia: 0-0-1 1
     
  10. Hendrixforpope

    Hendrixforpope Member+

    Barcelona
    Brazil
    Dec 15, 2007
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Any other way rewards depth.

    Surely 2-2-4 (USA) is more impressive than 3-0-1 (Switzerland).
     
  11. ak4na2

    ak4na2 Member

    Feb 9, 2005
    take a look at the 500m mens speedskate.. you think japan feels any better that they took home the silver and bronze..?? you think korea cares that japan took 2 medals over koreas 1..??

    gold gets your anthem played.. silver and bronze are great achievements but it means you have to stand on the podium and listen to someone elses national anthem..
     
  12. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
    Corona, Queens
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    If there's one thing I can't stand, it's jerks who believe the "You didn't win the Silver - you lost the Gold" bullshit. How dare anyone here heep shame on those who have achieved Olympic Silver and Bronze.
     
  13. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Depends on the context and the athlete(s). In some cases its all about the gold (e.g. women's ice hockey for USA and Canada).

    In seriousness, the best ranking would weigh gold heavier than the rest.
    G: 5 pts
    S: 3 pts
    B: 1 point.

    Or something like that.
     
  14. lordantwarrior

    lordantwarrior New Member

    Jun 21, 2009
    Pontefract, England
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I don't see why you Americans are so suprised at winning so many medals considering your population size. You win so many medals through the law of averages.

    Here in Britain (where we are woeful at Winter Sports) we treat each medalist as a hero, whether it is Gold, Silver or Bronze. Saying that, we still rank medals by number of Gold medals rather than total medals. Only the US ranks by total medals because they know they have the most athletes and therefore are guaranteed the most total medals- that way they see themselves as #1 even when they aren't.
     
  15. Hendrixforpope

    Hendrixforpope Member+

    Barcelona
    Brazil
    Dec 15, 2007
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    The US hasn't won the medal count in the Winter Olympics since 1932...
     
  16. Caesar

    Caesar Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Oztraya
    I don't think counting by number of gold is doing that though.

    To me the whole concept of a medal table is a bit of an anathema to the whole idea of individuals striving for personal excellence anyway. But if you're going to count them, it seems a bit difficult to give the gold the same weighting as the bronze. Different athletes may have different levels of performance that they'd be happy with (medalling, top 10, making the final, whatever) but they all go out there competing to win.
     
  17. HighburyForever

    HighburyForever Red Card

    Oct 15, 2006
    Wooloomooloo, New South Wales
    Club:
    Zenit St Petersburg
    Nat'l Team:
    Russia
    Oh man, we're cleaning up now. Its not even fair.

    Bill Archer must be having a party right now considering we doubled up Canada on medals already....and in their own sports.
     
  18. Caesar

    Caesar Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Oztraya
    Well I don't know what you expect... you've got ten times the population of Canada, one of the best-financed winter sports programmes in the world, and more athletes at the games than any other nation (including the hosts).

    If the US wasn't on top of the table I'd be asking questions.
     
  19. Hendrixforpope

    Hendrixforpope Member+

    Barcelona
    Brazil
    Dec 15, 2007
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    It's been 78 years since they were.
     
  20. Caesar

    Caesar Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Oztraya
    I mean at this point. I doubt they'll be on top at the end of this Games either - as the Nordic and speed skating events ramp up the balance will shift.
     
  21. HighburyForever

    HighburyForever Red Card

    Oct 15, 2006
    Wooloomooloo, New South Wales
    Club:
    Zenit St Petersburg
    Nat'l Team:
    Russia
    That's true but very few people in the U.S. play those winter sports. Only people in the very northern part of the U.S. like Minnesota, Illinois, and Wisconsin participate in speed skating and curling. When you add up participation numbers for various winter sports, it's about the same as Canada.
     
  22. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
    Corona, Queens
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Total Medal Count (after 6 days)

    United States: 5-3-6 14
    Germany: 3-4-3 10
    France: 2-1-4 7
    Canada: 2-3-1 6
    South Korea: 3-2-0 5
    Austria: 1-2-2 5
    Norway: 1-2-2 5
    Switzerland: 3-0-1 4
    China: 2-1-1 4
    Italy: 0-1-3 4
    Russia: 1-1-1 3
    Sweden: 2-0-0 2
    Slovakia: 1-1-0 2
    Czech Republic: 1-0-1 2
    Poland: 0-2-0 2
    Japan: 0-1-1 2
    Netherlands: 1-0-0 1
    Australia: 0-1-0 1
    Estonia: 0-1-0 1
    Finland: 0-1-0 1
    Latvia: 0-1-0 1
    Croatia: 0-0-1 1
    Slovenia: 0-0-1 1
     
  23. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    I find that hard to believe. Michigan and New York (two northern states) already combine for almost the same population as Canada.

    But money is certainly a factor. Most athletes are amateur at these games but many of the Americans seem to be corportate millionaires. So they can focus on their winter sports full-time.

    It's early days yet though. I doubt the USA will be on top at the end.
     
  24. ak4na2

    ak4na2 Member

    Feb 9, 2005
    i believe the usa is the only country with athletes in every sport in these games.. but then again because of certain sports participation numbers they are not very good at them.. the usa has pretty much gathered the majority of their medals.. the germans should shoot past them with the bobsleigh and biathlon events..
     
  25. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
    Corona, Queens
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Total Medal Count (after 7 days)

    United States: 6-5-7 18
    Germany: 4-4-3 11
    Norway: 3-3-2 8
    Canada: 3-3-1 7
    France: 2-1-4 7
    South Korea: 3-2-0 5
    Austria: 1-2-2 5
    Switzerland: 3-0-1 4
    China: 2-1-1 4
    Russia: 1-2-1 4
    Italy: 0-1-3 4
    Sweden: 2-0-1 3
    Netherlands: 1-1-1 3
    Japan: 0-1-2 3
    Australia: 1-1-0 2
    Slovakia: 1-1-0 2
    Czech Republic: 1-0-1 2
    Poland: 0-2-0 2
    Belarus: 0-1-1 2
    Estonia: 0-1-0 1
    Finland: 0-1-0 1
    Kazakhstan 0-1-0 1
    Latvia: 0-1-0 1
    Croatia: 0-0-1 1
    Slovenia: 0-0-1 1
     

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