NASL News 2009 Part 1

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  1. Jim Bob Rhino

    Jim Bob Rhino Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've heard that the USL is working with an FMF club with regards to them having a USL-1 club in 2010.
     
  2. frodoguevara

    frodoguevara Member

    Mar 25, 2006
    Charlotte, NC
    Club:
    Charlotte Eagles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And truthfully I don't see PR far behind unless they decide to slide down to USL2 ala Charleston.
     
  3. Jim Bob Rhino

    Jim Bob Rhino Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've heard that neither Portland nor Austin are really keen on joining the NASL.
     
  4. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Like who? Who can they possibly have besides what's listed?
     
  5. gstommylee

    gstommylee Member+

    Oct 3, 2008
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Do they really have a choice? Its either NASL or no season at all especially if USSF suspsends USL 1 and USL 2.
     
  6. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is probably the 500th claim by someone here that "Portland and Austin will jump to NASL" and yet, neither team has made any comments that support this. Throughout this entire process Portland and Austin have been strong USL supporters and have provided no hint that they are even considering jumping to NASL. Please, drop this tired internet meme until there is some actual evidence that supports it.

    If USL is able to get to 8 teams there is no reason for Portland and Austin to jump ship. Additionally, if there are contracts between USL and Tampa, Baltimore, and Rochester there is a better chance of the teams playing in USL1 next year than there is in them playing in NASL. It might only be for a year (or two years in Tampa's case), but that is long enough for USL to get replacement teams lined up and makes it so that NASL is the league that is struggling to get to 8 teams and not USL.
     
  7. tobee

    tobee Member

    Feb 3, 2007
    The Atlanta Silverbacks don't have a stadium lease agreement.
     
  8. frodoguevara

    frodoguevara Member

    Mar 25, 2006
    Charlotte, NC
    Club:
    Charlotte Eagles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OK that's one club, but now your involving the Mexican Federation in this cluster F---. Still have to come up with at least three other clubs out of thin air. Don't say they'll move up some of the USL2 clubs they don't have the finacial resources to play at that level. They'll fold just like Cleveland did.
     
  9. Jim Bob Rhino

    Jim Bob Rhino Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought they owned their stadium?!?!?!?!?
     
  10. Jim Bob Rhino

    Jim Bob Rhino Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Mexican Fed won't be involved. This is a US-based club owned by the Mexican club ala Chivas USA.
     
  11. gstommylee

    gstommylee Member+

    Oct 3, 2008
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    If USSF sanctioned NASL as division 2 and desnactions and suspends USL-1 USL-2 Portland and Austin may jump.

    USSF is not happy regarding the lawsuits.

    We don't know how the contracts are written. USL maybe the guilty one in that case not tampa Baltimore or the rhinos. If USL acted in bad faith etc those 3 teams may have the right to break the contract and Rhinos have a verbal commitment and that is really hard to prove in court.
     
  12. Jim Bob Rhino

    Jim Bob Rhino Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've heard that the USSF isn't happy that the three teams jumped.

    Honestly, I don't think that anybody involved in this mess is on Sunil Gulati's Holiday Card list right now.
     
  13. Intru

    Intru Member

    Mar 16, 2006
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    Puerto Rico Islanders
    Switching over to CCL? How is that even possible? Little know fact about Puerto Rico, we are very regionalistic, a person from the Ponce is never going to come all they way to Bayamon to watch a team play. It takes almost 2 hours to drive one way, yes surprise surprise in a island thats just 35 miles wide and 100 miles long it takes a shit ton of time to travel to different places, then you have the historical rivalry between the Metro area and Ponce. Its been debated long and hard in the Islanders boards and the general conclusion is that teams in the different geographical areas of PR, Metro, North, South, West and East would have little fan overlap. The other consensus is that PR could probably support three USL 1/NASL caliber teams if they where in the West (Mayaguez), South (Ponce) and Metro (Bayamon) areas, because the animosity of people in this areas to teams in the other areas in any sport is to great to really even think of supporting teams from there, the distance between them, it could take 3 hourse to get to Mayagues from Bayamon, 1:30 from Poince to Mayaguez, and 2 from Ponce to Bayamon and because each of this areas are the mayor population centers of the island, the west of the island is also a hot bed for soccer. Each area also have adecuate facilities, Bayamon has the JRL with 12k, Ponce has the Paquito Montaner with 18k and Mayaguez has their new Centro Americanos Stadium that hold somewhere between 12k-18k.

    For example Ponce River Plate probably draws more fans in than Miami FC and probably less than 1% will tell you that they also follow the Islanders, we don't even play in the same league and we already have clashes with them.

    Sevilla Juncos on the other hand probably draws 500 per game and the mayor of the town is comited on building them a new stadium, the first SSS on the island, But it plays in a small eastern town that is relatively close to the metro area like 1 hour drive from Caguas 1:30 from Bayamon. it is also in the least populated area of the Island which limits its fan base to the towns in the Caguas-Humacao corridor. Caguas being a mayor overlap with the Islanders fan base.
     
  14. gstommylee

    gstommylee Member+

    Oct 3, 2008
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    And instead of taking this to FIFA court USL files lawsuit in US court which is in violation of FIFA regulations.
     
  15. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And we have nothing to support this except internet rumors. USSF is probably not overly pleased with NASL forcing them into this position either. If you think USSF favors NASL over USL, then you're nuts. The only thing USSF cares about is that this gets resolved. If the resolution means NASL goes down in flames and USL survives, then they'll go with that.
     
  16. gstommylee

    gstommylee Member+

    Oct 3, 2008
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    There maybe a division 2 league season in 2010 or not. USL 1 and USL 2 still need 8 teams regardless of the 3 that are named in the lawsuit and those 3 teams may have the right to breakaway if USL refused to cooperate with the teams.

    We have no idea how USSF will decide in USL or NASL. USL filing a lawsuit forced their hand and that may cause them to favor NASL.
     
  17. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No kidding. If the federation were really smart they'd de-sanction USL, not sanction NASL and start their own Federation based league and make all the parties come crawling to them.
     
  18. frodoguevara

    frodoguevara Member

    Mar 25, 2006
    Charlotte, NC
    Club:
    Charlotte Eagles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Interesting info. Thanks. I still don't think USL is going to be abto pull this off.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmnHLUW8Z1o&feature=related"]YouTube- a bullwinkle hat trick[/ame]
     
  19. EstebanLugo

    EstebanLugo Member

    Mar 18, 2007
    N of your DB
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Respuesta: Re: NASL News 2009 Part 1

    fyp.
     
  20. gstommylee

    gstommylee Member+

    Oct 3, 2008
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    USSF will not decided that there will be no Division 2 league the question is will it be NASL or USL-1 as division 2.

    USL would been smart and not filed lawsuit in US court and let USSF decide the matter.
     
  21. EstebanLugo

    EstebanLugo Member

    Mar 18, 2007
    N of your DB
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Respuesta: Re: NASL News 2009 Part 1

    If I was NASL commish, I'll have this on big screens at the HQs all day long.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8KQmps-Sog"]YouTube- Uprising[/ame]
     
  22. gstommylee

    gstommylee Member+

    Oct 3, 2008
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Frankly i don't care who gets division 2 status cause this mess may cost US's chance on hosting the world cup and and i will blame USL for that.
     
  23. jasontoon

    jasontoon Member

    Jan 9, 2002
    Seattle, WA
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Even in the unlikely event that USL1 wins a judgment against those teams between now and April, tell me how the court, any court, would be able to force those teams to participate in USL1. Armed guards?

    If they fail to meet whatever obligations they might have to USL1, they'll owe USL some money. That's it.
     
  24. atlanticTFCfan

    atlanticTFCfan Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 14, 2007
    Sydney, Nova Scotia
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Sounds like you're bringing up the USFL "win" scenario, in that the USL could win the verdict but get shanked financially.
     
  25. Intru

    Intru Member

    Mar 16, 2006
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    Puerto Rico Islanders
    We are horrified down here at the idea of USL trying to get Ponce River Plate and Sevilla Juncos move up. None of the teams are ready to do so and it could be the death bell for the PR Soccer League. Its a retarded idea and it just going to hurt PR soccer. Even Ponce fans have rejected the idea saying that if anything NASL is a better option.

    Islanders supporters hate USL 1 and would rather see our team jump. The teams action do not reflect the fans opinions of the situation!
     

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