I love you, even if it turns out you're lying to me. And about USL-1 having 8 teams for 2010...Even if they make it, that league would be a mess because you'd have to pull four teams completely out of thin air either as brand new clubs or clubs from other leagues that would have to be reogranized to be able to survive in a professional league.
I'll be amazed if they pull it off however i doubt they will be in time for the season. They'll be down 1 more team assuming portland jumps to NASL right after it gets sanctioned.
Yep you can bet the house that Portland will be jumping to NASL when the league is officially sanctioned. Tim
Respuesta: Re: NASL News 2009 Part 1 if "The Rumor" on this thread is true, USSF should suspend USL not only until they reorganize themselves, but also until they drop the lawsuits.
Don't see how that's possible unless they're counting Baltimore, Miami, and Rochester, or they move a couple of USL2 teams up (which would be suicide for those teams and USL2). This is getting interesting. very interesting.
If they move up any teams from USL-2 based on the fact they're nowhere near ready for it (Cleveland, anyone?), NuRock can lay claim to the fact that they killed off their own top two leagues.
Still nothing from USSF on their website. Fact is, no matter what NuRock can say about the TOA in terms of killing the value of their purchase, they have serious holes in their own foot from the buckshot. Wiki's USL-1 page only lists 4 teams, and one of them is FCNY, which even New Yorkers don't believe will ever exist. At this point, NuRock really needs to shut their mouths, drop their lawsuits, and cut the best deal they can with the NASL and all the breakaway clubs. Hell, they might even try to figure out how to cooperate and figure out how to try a limited Pro/Rel between NASL and USL-1.5. I'm no Pro/Rel fan, but NuRock is completely out of options, and if they don't cut a deal before the USSF rules, they will be completely SOL.
If USL is suspended, would it just be the pro leagues, or would the PDL, W-League, Super-20 and Super-Y seasons be put in doubt?
Right now as two separate league USL-1 USL-2 neither have 8 teams. If merged together into 1 USL they might but I'm not sure if they still will have 8 teams combined. Austin and Portland probably will jump to NASL.
Even though I'm holding out hope that the PR Islanders move to NASL, I must admit I've also heard that USL-1 should have 8-10 teams. The president of the Puerto Rico soccer federation said this week that USL-1 will go ahead and that they look 'strong'. Also, one of the owners on the Islanders' board said that he expects at least 8 teams for USL-1 in 2010. USL execs will be in PR next week to meet with 2 clubs on the Island that could potentially move up to USL-1. From what I've heard, USSF might be making some sort of decision next week. Unfortunately, at the moment it looks as if USL-1 might be holding the high ground.
Yeah, but who are these mysterious 8 teams? Because that's not what I'm counting. Sounds like they're just blowing smoke and hoping the USSF denies the NASL and teams will come back before anyone calls their bluff.
USL doesn't have the high ground. They have 3 teams period. They've got a possible expansion team in NY that's smoke and mirrors. And they've got two teams in PR that they've approached that are not USL1 level teams (which the Islanders also still have to give the ok to even let into the league). They'll suffer the same fate as most teams that move up without prep do. And what other team are they claiming they have? Ottawa which won't be ready til 2011 at the earliest? USL claiming they have 8 teams is just BS.
I've also heard that the USSF was asking for stadium lease agreements in the information that they wanted from the NASL & USL on Wednesday. Given their massive debt to the NSC, that would seem to hurt Minnesota's status as a viable NASL club, at least in the USSF's eyes. I wonder what the stadium lease status is for all of the phantom USL clubs?
They won't have 8 USL teams. Portland and Austin will jump to NASL which gives USL 2 more teams to they to find. NASL will still meet the requirement of teams needed.
There are other teams that could materialize that you haven't listed. Plus, the USL might still be counting TB, CPB, and Roc on their side of the ledger.
How? How are they holding the high ground? Who do they have? Right now they have Austin, Portland, Puerto Rico, and a fictious NY club. My kids believe in the tooth fairy doesn't mean that it exists. I really believe USL is suffering from either a case of serious denial, egoitis or both. Where is the NY club?! the last I heard they held tryouts then nothing. Zero, Zilch, Nada. Where are they going to play? Can anyone tell me that? Is there a stadium contract/committment? Who are the coaches? Management? Now the last I heard Puerto Rico was one of the clubs in USL1 having financial concerns. There was talk of them dropping down to USL 2 or switching over to CONCACAF Champions league. If they do put a second USL1 team on the island you'd be spreading your fan base there pretty thin. The island can barely support one club, but two? I don't believe it will be long before we see a switch from Austin, and Portland to NASL, they are just waiting to see the sanctioning decision.
It depends on the USSF's view on which league to count TB, CPB, and Roc with. Plus, Atlanta is rumored to be out of the mix for 2010 and instead slated to join the NASL in 2011. If USSF doesn't count Minnesota & Atlanta and the three late movers are either counted as USL clubs or "Neither", then the NASL is down to 5 clubs for 2010. It's too bad that the USSF hasn't made a public statement about the lawsuit filed by the USL!
By the beginning of the 2010 soccer season? I don't think so it doesn't matter which league TB CPB and Roc is on they still don't have enough teams.
Yes The USL has been working a bunch of options behind the scenes that I have never read as rumors anywhere. Some of which would really shock people if they were to materialize. But one potential USL market that isn't being counted is Minnesota, should the NSC host a team that plays in the USL-1.
Portland is not getting involved in the mess. If NASL is sanctioned and USL 1 and 2 suspended Portland will jump.