News: Mexico (and the US) in danger of not playing Copa America ever again

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  1. EstebanLugo

    EstebanLugo Member

    Mar 18, 2007
    N of your DB
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    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    Diana Pérez | MEDIOTIEMPO
    Ciudad de México, lunes 23 de Noviembre del 2009
    • El Presidente de la FMF aseguró que el riesgo es real
    Justino Compeán, Presidente de la Federación Mexicana de Futbol, aceptó que la Selección Mexicana de Futbol corre el riesgo de no participar en la Copa América de Argentina 2011 después de una propuesta de la Unión de Federaciones de Futbol Europeas (UEFA) que desea impedir que selecciones participen en confederaciones diferentes a la propia.

    La propuesta se ha puesto en marcha, pero el Presidente de la FMF espera que no sea aceptada y que México reciba el permiso de la CONCACAF para ser parte de la Copa América 2011.

    “Hay un movimiento por parte de la UEFA que no quieren que las Selecciones jueguen invitados en otras Confederaciones que no sea la suya, es el caso de México como que es de CONCACAF y está jugando en CONMEBOL la Copa América.

    “Hay riesgo, existe, para qué lo calificamos de alto o bajo, pero vamos a esperar, hoy hay junta de Comité Ejecutivo de la CONCACAF y se iba a tratar de ese punto, pero la Copa América es hasta el 2011 y hay tiempo para cabildear”, declaró el directivo.

    Justino Compeán aprovechando la visita de Joseph Blatter, Presidente de la FIFA, trató de que intercediera por ellos y pudiera parar la idea; sin embargo el mandamás de la FIFA le aseveró que no es un asunto en el que él pueda interferir porque es un asunto “interconfederaciones”.

    “Pudiéramos tener ese riesgo (no participar en la Copa América), pero es algo que tienen que arreglar CONMEBOL y CONCACAF, es obvio que nosotros primero tenemos que cumplir con la Copa de Oro que se juega cada dos años y cada cuatro se complica con las fechas de la Copa América; pero creo que tenemos los suficientes argumentos para que nos sigan permitiendo jugar en la Copa América, para México es muy importante jugar en la Copa América”.

    El tema, Justino Compeán, espera que tenga solución en los próximos días, aunque para él no es momento de preocuparse, pues aún hay tiempo para negociar y llegar a un acuerdo; por lo pronto el Presidente de la FMF quiere celebrar que México ha pasado con éxito la revisión de FIFA de cara a la organización del Mundial Sub-17.

    “Terminamos el día de hoy, estábamos en el Estadio Azteca y ahora vamos a una sesión con ellos para el reporte final, pero salen hoy a Zurich, visitaron seis, falta Guadalajara porque lo visitaremos hasta el mes de marzo para que ya este terminado porque no tenía caso visitarlo ahora, pero desde luego que será sede”, declaró Compeán quien resaltó que sólo se harán pequeñas modificaciones en algunos estadios.

    “La gente de la FIFA está en la mejor disposición porque después de haber tenido la experiencia de Nigeria, lo digo con respeto, pues esto es muy fácil cuando México es reconocido como un país que ha organizado Mundiales, la gente de la FIFA se va muy satisfecho”, sentenció.

    Los directivos de FIFA volverán en marzo para visitar el estadio de Guadalajara y ver las ampliaciones en el estadio de Tijuana, pues se espera que tenga un aforo de 33 mil 333 espectadores.


    Y para que DEMONIOS necesita la UEFA esto??? En que rayos les afecta? Desde que tengo uso de razón ninguna selección europea juega fuera de su confederación. Pero hey! HELLO?? Aquí solo somos 10, necesitamos traer invitados o si no los mismos de siempre se vuelve muy aburrido!
     
  2. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Why does UEFA care about who plays Copa America? It doesn't make any sense.
     
  3. aloisius

    aloisius Member

    Jul 5, 2003
    Croatia
    i don't speak spanish, but my guess is that clubs could refuse to release mexican and american players to the copa america because it's not their continental championship.

    they already release them for the gold cup, why should they release them to play in someone else's continental championship as well?
     
  4. Martin del Palacio

    Nov 14, 2005
  5. aloisius

    aloisius Member

    Jul 5, 2003
    Croatia
    but they'll probably have to do it without the european based players.

    or they could apply for conmebol membership.
     
  6. Argentine Futbol

    Argentine Futbol Red Card

    Feb 21, 2003
    Old Greenwich, CT
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    It's only a matter of time when mexico will not be involved in any of our Tournaments. There is a FIFA law that prohibits this. Finally!!
     
  7. Andrés_

    Andrés_ Member

    Nov 16, 2007
    Argentina.
    Club:
    CA Independiente
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Just like they didn't allow that to happen with the Sudamericana when CONCACAF raised the voice... And if it comes from UEFA they could care less, but i don't think this has to do with Copa América, but i don't get exactly what's their intention. Also got to see if CONCACAF has any objection... What if they don't?

    It has been known publicly that United States wasn't going to take part either way, it was believed that Japan had a good shot to replace them.
     
  8. Panfilo

    Panfilo Member+

    May 9, 2003
    INLAND EMPIRE
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    That whole thing was because of $$$

    The FMF has no power within Concacaf

    But Mexico has someone that Fifa and Concacaf is very friendly with.

    [​IMG]

    Televisa let Blazer and company deny the Mexican clubs the opportunity to play in the Sudamericana but that was because it affected Fox. And Televisa started their own sports cable network to rival Fox and Espn.
    http://www.cronica.com.mx/nota.php?id_nota=442510

    Like it says in the article Mexico will be in the Libertadores next year for sure. But after that it will be in the Libertadores, but probably won't be shown on Fox (in Mexico).

    As far as the Copa America goes, it says nothing about teams not being able to compete, but players from European clubs not competing. Mexico or any other team could play but just not with their European players.

    But who knows if the rule will pass, I do know that Televisa has the rights to it and Blatter and Televisa go way back.
     
  9. Andrés_

    Andrés_ Member

    Nov 16, 2007
    Argentina.
    Club:
    CA Independiente
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    But the article is talking about disallowing teams not players, players could be the reason behind it but not what it'd forbid. And even if it doesn't get approved it seems CONCACAF has the last word on it.
     
  10. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I wonder, what would it do for a European club's chemistry if they allow a South American player to play Copa America and deny his CONCACAF teammate the same request?
     
  11. Latin Pride

    Latin Pride Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    In your house
    Club:
    Olimpia Asuncion
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Or maybe we should be like every other federation and stop whoring out our tournaments to everybody.

    Concacaf already stopped the invitees, so can we.
     
  12. aloisius

    aloisius Member

    Jul 5, 2003
    Croatia
    they'll cry all day. who cares.

    copa america is not mexico's continental championship. the clubs are under no obligation to release players for those games.
     
  13. Argentine Futbol

    Argentine Futbol Red Card

    Feb 21, 2003
    Old Greenwich, CT
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    The Conmebol is working on a multi-billion dollar deal with Europe/Asia for the Copa Sudamericana and Copa Libertadores. I was shocked to see that Setanta shows the Copa Sudamericana. Its only a matter of time before the mexicans stop coming down here.
     
  14. BeHereNow

    BeHereNow Member

    Sep 1, 2007
    California
  15. Andrés_

    Andrés_ Member

    Nov 16, 2007
    Argentina.
    Club:
    CA Independiente
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    If that happens the mickey mouse levels of the Copa América instead of improving will decrease. But eh, that seems the only thing that CONMEBOL can do these days.

    Where'd you get that from? Do you have any source? I couldn't find anything about that.
     
  16. freakyflow

    freakyflow Member

    Jul 10, 2009
    az
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    lol man you cry all the time about mexican teams, listen retard were not going anywhere and its obvious as hell we can compete in your federation club or national level no need to bust out the results. cry me a river pibito because theirs NOTHING you can do from stoping us. you hate the fact that we have beaten all of conmebol's national teams and great clubs at a time or another, I know it hurts you sooo bad and I LOVE it.

    What the hell are you afraid of? its bringing in money for both federations and we get to see more fantastic matches, if were not good enough I would understand but thats not even the problem. Your just a racist that hates mexicans, e thug always spew ur hate online but face to face u keep it nice and quiet like a good pibe. Its simple dont watch anymore, dont support anything that mexicans will partcipate in, turn off the tv simple as that because we are NOT going to leave ha ha :D. hurry go start up petitions I bet you could get alot of signatures omg! lol.
     
  17. Argentine Futbol

    Argentine Futbol Red Card

    Feb 21, 2003
    Old Greenwich, CT
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I heard it on the radio thru Mitre awhile back. I guess that's why I was so shocked when I saw the Copa Sudamericana on Setanta that soon. especially with all the possibilties that the argentinian league brings to the table. I don't remember the amount of Euros europeans spend to watch us. I lost the figures. They are testing the ratings but what kills us is the time difference (LIVE) obviously. Did you hear the CEo of Banco Santander during El sorteo that their branch in Brasil is worth more 50 billion already? I give it a year or two before Brazil can do whatever the hell they want. Its not like Banco Santander is going to pull out..

    Racist? Why? Because I think your futbol sucks? because its all smoke and mirrors? Because most fans and mexican press are garbage? Because all the players that make a difference are South American yet you claim it as MEXICANS? FAILED! SORRY!!!! me not liking your futbol doesn't make me a racist and if so Than There's alot of racist Mofo in the World. Just go check youtube for some real freedom of speech. I for one, was very happy and glad that the mexicans came down to play with us. I think the majority were excited until everyone noticed the tremendous baggage that came along with it. YOur PRESS, yes YOUR PRESS turned it into a us versus them. Constant complaining about our referee's like your facking referee's are any better. Constant Acussations of robbery ala Henry..Not even close.. How about all the Stereotyping and flat out racist comments (Orvananos to Luis Bolanos) done by your commentators? or all that shit that came out of JACOBO's mouth? Didn't he get fired for it? But the latest was when UEFA had its Sorteo and the mexican commenators stated and I quote " How come Conmebol Sorteo isn't this nice and why doesn't the Conmebol have something similiar?" If I had a number I could call, I would have let that piece of shit know, how come Concamexi************ doesn't have anything close to that? But that's exactly how your Commentators Work.

    You go live up on that cloud of your because honestly I think you know this. Your futbol doesn't matter. It didn't matter thru history and it doesn't matter now. We celebrate Trophy and Championships. You keep celebrating GAMES that only you remember
     
  18. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
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    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Any more world rivalry type posts will result in an infraction.
     
  19. Bujias

    Bujias Member

    May 4, 2007
    Mexico, GDL.
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    To be fair he has some valid points, i never tought i said it but hes speaks the truth, about our press at least, hes just to dumb to realize most mexicans agree that our media sucks, he probably thinks everyone believes what theyr saying, referee wise there has been some bad refereeing but i happens everywhere, so i gotta give him that our media saying BS about the refereeing is uncalled for, but hey what can you expect of Televisa and TV Azteca, after theyr teams got eliminated by horrible referees?

    Our football in the other hand, has proven to be very competitive, he tries to dissregard us for using Southamerican players when we had clubs competing only with mexicans and reaching semis, the same club has won the knock down against hes favorite club, so after years of seeing hes criying about mexicans i can only come to the conclusion that hes bitter little kid with some valid points but exagerates to the point where he cant see past hes own views.

    Anyway i read and article of the VP of the CONMEBOL saying they would ignore FIFA and that theyr going to keep sending invites to Mexico for the CA, and that as long as CONCACAF allows it to the CL.

    Edit *Sid my bad sorry, i posted before i relized you deleted the other posts.*
     
  20. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    One more thing this is the Copa America forum please keep the discussion on the Copa America.

    If you want to talk about the Copa Lib please do it in the CONMEBOL forum.
     
  21. Argentine Futbol

    Argentine Futbol Red Card

    Feb 21, 2003
    Old Greenwich, CT
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    He can ignore FIFA all he wants. I want to see mr VP of the Conmebol tell european clubs or UEFA to release players for a Continental championship that's not theirs. Now that would be having major pull!! We can't get players back in a reasonable amount of time to train for a qualifier. Not going to happen!

    Do you know what's the other reason why UEFA doesn't want this? First of all its a law second. Lets just say if Morocco decided to leave africa to play in UEFA. They can put up a serious fight if they really wanted to. Why? Because not only is Morocco across the river but Spain has territories within Morocco making them alot more part of Europe than Mexico is South American.
     
  22. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    Let Mexico and the USA participate in Copa America. CONMEBOL and CONCACAF don't meddle in UEFA affairs, do they?
     
  23. Argentine Futbol

    Argentine Futbol Red Card

    Feb 21, 2003
    Old Greenwich, CT
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    When it comes to releasing players for national team duty. Oh yes we do!!!
     
  24. art

    art Member

    Jul 2, 2000
    Portland OR
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't particularly care what UEFA opines regarding continental championships that they have nothing to do with, but I have never understood why the CONMEBOL championship has non-CONMEBOL teams in it. As someone already pointed out, CONCACAF doesn't do this anymore, making CONMEBOL the only confederation that accepts non-confederation teams into it's championship. This should stop IMO. Let the Mexicans whine, they're the only ones who would care.
     
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  25. elcibernetico24

    Jun 28, 2008
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    if we are the only ones that care then why CONMEBOL apologized to FMF for the whole swine flu fiasco,that was the perfect oportunity to get rid of us,money talks and conmebol officials love money,they would care if we go ;)
     

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