The 'Classic Clips' Thread

Discussion in 'Germany' started by Gregoriak, Jul 21, 2007.

  1. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    #226 Gregoriak, Jan 5, 2009
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2013
    Two Rainer Bonhof trademark-freekicks/long-range shots:






    Müller's third goal from the 1974 World Cup final which was ridiculously disallowed by the English referee Taylor for alleged off-side (Müller was easily 1.5 meters on-side):

     
  2. hackespitze123

    Jul 24, 2008
    Germany
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    It really is mind-boggling that millions still somehow believe that Holland was 'robbed' in that final. Amazing how well the anti-German propaganda worked in all these years (well, not really surprising on second thought, for various reasons). It seems like the less people are around who have actually seen that match, the more believe that myth.
     
  3. deleted

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    Aug 18, 2006
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    i saw one guy write on one forum that it was a freak result where if they played 10 times, holland would win 9
     
  4. hackespitze123

    Jul 24, 2008
    Germany
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    You'd be surprised, even a considerable number of Germans themselves believe this myth. It's probably some kind of 'guilt complex' - not only the traditionally rather difficult standing of 'patriotism' in post-WW2 Germany, but feeling "guilty" for being "too successful'; it's difficult to explain, thousands of psychologists made a living from this...

    One of the biggest myths regarding German football is that Germany was primarily so successful due to their superior will power and mental strenght. Up until this day, quite a few Germans believe that other nations are 'superior', but we compensate for that with our great mental strenght and winning mentality. This way of thinking had disastrous consequences in the past decade - if you actually believe that your winning mentality and superior fitness are 'enough', you can neglect the footballing side of things, hence the total lack of a professional youth setup just a few years ago.

    A lot of Germans basically believed their own stereotype. I call it German romanticism, just like Brazilians believed for decades that their 'superior flair and technique' alone would prevail (until the 'pragmatic' Parreira won the WC in 1994, after 24 years without a title).
     
  5. LoewenBoy

    LoewenBoy Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    Giesing, Muenchen
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Sint Maarten
    I think it was heart. Growing up I could watch Germany take the field and immediately know if they would win the game. You could tell from their manner and the way they played. They played with heart and with pride.
     
  6. deleted

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    Aug 18, 2006
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    but, they played great football in winning
     
  7. dor02

    dor02 Member

    Aug 9, 2004
    Melbourne
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I think that can be applied to a few NTs. Italy never won a World Cup playing catenaccio (even though some idiots sadly believe it) and Argentina didn't really win their World Cups by playing like Argentine sides in the most traditional sense.
     
  8. hackespitze123

    Jul 24, 2008
    Germany
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Maybe, but did Italians and Argentinians believe that themselves? That's the point.

    Not the stereotype itself is the main problem, but the consequences it had in this country - the total neglect of professional youth coaching (especially the technical / footballing aspect of the game) for years. AFAIK, both Italy and Argentina had / still have an excellent youth setup, and Germany just caught up in the last few years.
     
  9. dor02

    dor02 Member

    Aug 9, 2004
    Melbourne
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Mostly the Italian coaches believed it but not the fans.
     
  10. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    #235 Gregoriak, Feb 15, 2009
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2013
    A very fine goal scored by Mönchengladbach's Danish striker Henning Jensen after a superb assist by Horst Köppel in a 1973 Bundesliga game against Bochum:

     
  11. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich

    Now "they" have done the same to Pimpelhuber's video collections. His awesome compilations of Rummenigge, Matthäus, Hässler, Möller, Basler as well as his mid-80s Bundesliga compilations are all deleted, as is his account.

    Damn those copyright bastards.
     
  12. Borussia

    Borussia Member+

    Jun 5, 2006
    Fürth near Nuremberg
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    They seem to suffer from Paranoia. :))
     
  13. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    It's sad.
     
  14. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    #239 Gregoriak, Feb 25, 2009
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2013
    Lothar Emmerich's famous goal vs. Spain...

     
  15. LoewenBoy

    LoewenBoy Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    Giesing, Muenchen
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Sint Maarten
  16. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    #241 Gregoriak, Mar 22, 2009
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2013
    Non-Goal of the year 1983: Borussia Mönchengladbach's Hans-Günter Bruns at the Munich Olympiastadion vs Bayern.

     
  17. LoewenBoy

    LoewenBoy Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    Giesing, Muenchen
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Sint Maarten
    Holy Crap!!! Wonder what the final score was?

    Love those shorts....actually had a pair. :D
     
  18. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    #243 Gregoriak, Mar 22, 2009
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2013

    Here's the report on the complete game, the sound is a little bit crap though:



    I regard this as the prime example of a Bayern 'Dusel' game.
     
  19. Borussia

    Borussia Member+

    Jun 5, 2006
    Fürth near Nuremberg
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Mamma mia, what touch luck after that great solo...
     
  20. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    He already had hit the post only a few minutes before that scene.
     
  21. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    #246 Gregoriak, Mar 27, 2009
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2013
    Watch Jimmy Hartwig score for Hamburg against Bayern in spring 1984.

     
  22. LoewenBoy

    LoewenBoy Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    Giesing, Muenchen
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Sint Maarten
    Great post!!!!

    I counted 27 mullets, 23 of them were permed.:eek:
     
  23. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    Bayern 1983-84, can you name the players?

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  24. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
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    Feb 27, 2002
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