USWNT vs So Cal Boys ODP

Discussion in 'USA Women: News and Analysis' started by Bird1812, Jan 27, 2009.

  1. Bird1812

    Bird1812 New Member

    Nov 10, 2004
    Found in another forum, these observations of two who watched the WNT play the So Cal 92 and 93 ODP teams. Second comments are by the assistant coach of the 92 boys (who apparently missed the women's single goal against his team :cool: ).


     
  2. gogogo

    gogogo Member

    Apr 18, 2002
    A fascinating post - thanks. I've read, either in this or other forums, that U-16 men can be a very competitive match with the USWNT and this bears that out.
     
  3. kwaze

    kwaze New Member

    Jan 7, 2009
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Interesting...there are some video of this matches?....will be cool to see the wnt plays against a men´s team..and WIN!
     
  4. luvdagame

    luvdagame Member+

    Jul 6, 2000
    ?????

    they won't win. they just played two boys' teams and lost. anyway, as pia seems to state, the point is learning as much as possible from the game. it's good practice.
     
  5. kwaze

    kwaze New Member

    Jan 7, 2009
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    It´s true...I read wrong.
     
  6. lisanp

    lisanp New Member

    Oct 19, 2008
    tennessee
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Great post. I always hear about these games taking place but never actually hear how they go. I’m glad whoever wrote this gave the girls their do instead of just saying they lost 5-1 to a bunch of 15/16 year olds. It is defiantly important to note that these are ODP players not the local high school team. I really hate playing boys/men. They are so much faster and when you (at least for me) defend against a faster player you really have to put a body on them, get physical and win the ball, with boys not only are they faster but they can jump higher and are stronger, even if you are stronger, it’s a scrimmage so you can’t go all out. Oh and they sweat and stink so much more than girls. Eww.
     
  7. mr prolific

    mr prolific Member

    Jan 30, 2008
    SLC
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Let's see some video or pictures of these "matches". I call bullshit.
     
  8. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    On what-- that the matches happened? Or the outcome? What? :confused:
     
  9. mr prolific

    mr prolific Member

    Jan 30, 2008
    SLC
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That they even happened.
     
  10. Bird1812

    Bird1812 New Member

    Nov 10, 2004
    There's another article about the U17 women's national team playing the U14 Irvine Strikers on Top Drawer Soccer: http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/component/option,com_topdrawer/Itemid,251/nid,8042/

    It says the boys were quicker, more creative and dictated the game. This is a club team 3 years younger than the national team (although I know several of the girls on the team may actually be the same age as the boys they played). Testosterone explains the quickness, but not the creativity.
     
  11. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Why would you doubt it? (And why would anyone care if you do?)

    Its not a controversial subject, and almost anyone who follows the National Team knows such matches have been part of their training process for many many years...

    And why would anyone make such a thing up, anyway?
     
  12. mr prolific

    mr prolific Member

    Jan 30, 2008
    SLC
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm just asking for pictures to prove it, and I have followed the nats for 40 yrs, how about you?
     
  13. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Wow.

    That would be almost twice as long as anyone else has ever managed...:cool:
     
  14. mingyung

    mingyung Member

    Jun 7, 1999
    Even ussoccer.com has had coverage over the years of the WNT scrimmaging against boys teams.

    Now, the moon landing on the other hand . . . :rolleyes:
     
  15. Bird1812

    Bird1812 New Member

    Nov 10, 2004
    You couldn't have been following the US women for 40 years as they only played their first match in 1985.
     
  16. Lensois

    Lensois Member

    May 19, 2004
    Sure it does, it's the result of the 17s going into survival mode to cope with the speed and quickness of the game. This happens pretty routinely in female teams (and, in fact, in most teams regardless of gender when presented with a different level of play) when put up against boys the first few times. If they face these situations as a group more routinely than they will start to cope better with it and have the time to physically and mentally execute faster to solve problems which will likely lead to more creativity. That said, I think there is always some element of survival mode that will kick in with female teams against boys so there needs to be a clear thought process behind why they are put in those situations.
     
  17. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  18. gogogo

    gogogo Member

    Apr 18, 2002
    Trustworthy sources allege that the WNT was playing a boys team on a grassy knoll in Dallas....
     
  19. mr prolific

    mr prolific Member

    Jan 30, 2008
    SLC
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I didn't say the woman.
     
  20. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    "Date of Birth
    December 21st, 1968 (40)"

    Prodigious...:cool:
     
  21. mr prolific

    mr prolific Member

    Jan 30, 2008
    SLC
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, Prolific.
     
  22. MRAD12

    MRAD12 Member+

    Jun 10, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Easy man. People are just wondering why you're doubting something that happens often with the WNT at different levels. They play younger boys teams in exhibitions.
    And we are talking about the Womens National teams here.
     
  23. mr prolific

    mr prolific Member

    Jan 30, 2008
    SLC
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Show me pictures of the WNT playing a boys youth team and losing. Not the under 20's, not the under 17,s. THE WNT. Show me proof. PICTURES? VIDEO?

    My point is there aren't any, because it is all BS. The real WNT would crush ANY boys high school team or ANY boys club team.

    ********ing pictures or video...
     
  24. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Um-- they usually play select teams I believe, but they do mostly lose. I believe some years they've done fairly well against 15's.

    Bu this is not controversial, really. I don't know that anyone can cite pictures or video for you because it would never cross anyone's mind that there was anything to prove...

    If you need a cause try Roswell or ancient astronauts or something...
     
  25. MRAD12

    MRAD12 Member+

    Jun 10, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Obviously I haven't been to any of these type of games since the ones I've heard them play were in HDC or other places where the WNT trains. But I'm sure there's someone on these boards that has been to one of these games in the past. I believe I remember reading comments in the past by WNT members who commented on how they were outmuscled and the boys even at high school age were much faster than they were.
     

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