Like it or not "Cid" the team will be in Miami, where Spanish is the main language. So naming the team Atletico Miami is perfect.
Like it or not "PB" the team will be in the USA, so naming it an English name would be almost obligatory. This is the kind of crap that makes Americans xenophobes. Now I see why other folks are talking about Miami arrogance. The nation and the league take precedence before your wants and Miami. The last time I checked, Miami was an American city where the official language was still English. Don't expect future generations of the immigrants who traveled to Miami to completely retain Spanish. Generations living there in the future will Americanize. You have to realize Miami as it is, is a temporary sub-cultural phenomenon. I'm speaking as to what's appropriate given the circumstances. A Spanish name registers exactly the same as "Chivas USA" or "Los Miamenses." Whatever you name it, it says to the USA two things - 1. This team is a sub-cultural pander to hispanics. 2. MLS isn't really a professional American soccer league, it's a league where other nations come to play and experiment. And that's all it'll ever be. I care about this team succeeding, and I'm telling you right now, "Atletico Miami" sounds like a scary joke.
Just a suggestion from a distance: FCB Miami or Miami FCB to credit Barca's role in bringing futbol to South Florida. Nickname: Barracudas.
How do you explain Real Salt Lake? The word "Real" is royal in spanish. How do you explain Chivas USA? Don't say because of the "USA" part it justifies it. That team is a straight copy of a popular team in Mexico. If you do more research, the Mexican version of the team only allows Mexican players to play in it. So your accusations of arrogance and selfishness should have been directed towards those teams. I actually think having Chivas in the MLS is a great disrespect to non-mexican supporters of the League, but that only makes me want to have a team of the likes of Atletico Miami so that we can beat the "Chivas" in a real MLS game, creating rivalries! A name means so much and having an authentic 'spanish' name to our team makes our supporters more passionate towards our team in the south Florida area. We can't let your views of "American Soccer" dictate the way we have to name our team.
Real Salt Lake and Chivas USA are nasty jokes. You have to let the nation you play in and for dictate the way you name the team. Florida Marlins, Miami Dolphins, Miami Heat... and then out of nowhere, on that most "foreign" sport of soccer, "Atletico Miami"? And goats? And "royal" names in Spanish? Fans will have input into what the team should be named, but I don't think Claure and Barca are going to let popular demand go unchecked when it's unreasonable and/or detrimental to the club and/or the league.
In American sports you have a lot those type of names with mascot such as the Marlins and Dolphins. But Being that Soccer is more popular than baseball and the amount hispanics that live here, support the support, like Chivas USA in LA and Real Salt lake than your scary joke will turn to reality. And apparently you haven't been down here long enough to noticed that. It's in our culture, it's in our everyday life. From The Hatian people to the large hispanic communities and to the Anglo-Americans who live here, this is the way its going to be for many years to come. Come to any of the different NON-AMERICAN festivals that are celebrated here. Each year the only get bigger. Go to a Peruvian Independence Day festival, a Colombian Independence day festival. The plethera of soccer jersey's you see from around the wolrd is astounding and only screams the necesity to bring a team here with a symbol or better yet a name that represents Miami. I for one want the name to be Union Miami. Mainly for the fact of the union of different cultures here in South Florida but another reason is that the word Union is spelled the same in Spanish, English and Creole/French. But If not Union than Atletico for sure.
This board has the strongest case of poll-addiction that I've seen in my entire life. Oh, and FCB Miami.
Union Miami would be a great name. Because it's both in English and Spanish. By the way, I was born and raised in Miami. I've only been away less than a year. I understand and love Miami culture, however, my concern is for the team and for Major League Soccer as a whole. Most people agree that Chivas USA, and Real Salt Lake, at least as names, were mistakes. Let's not make the same mistake. There will be tremendous support for this team, without having to carry such an embarassing name. And, yes, the name is embarassing because it's embarassing for MLS not to hold any water and have to essentially have other leagues play here. That's what it seems like when the America's professional soccer league has teams with names like that. Miami and Barca don't have to go for that - we're taking a new direction. Let's show that with the name. Union Miami, FCB Miami, Miami FCB, those are appropriate and great names... with so many respectable choices, why surrender that to attempt to sound like and imitate South American or other foreign teams? Let's build our own.
Union Miami sounds ridiculous. If you want to unite cultures go with United or Fusion. The Fusion name was meant to be just that, bringing together different cultures. However the name Fusion will most likely not be brought back according to Claure. I'll still stick with Atletico Miami. And I'm voting for this as a non-spanish speaking person. It just has a nice ring to it.
For the life of me, I cannot understand why people want/think Barca would go with a name that when mentioned, brings about an image of one of their competitiors. Why not Real Miami, Deportivo Miami, or even Villamiami? Barca is not going to use a name that make one picture a competitor.
United and Fusion work great. Atletico? I foresee a world of problems, including the discriminatory nature of the name.
Obviously not. This whole Atletico Miami mini-movement is just sad. Never in a million years will Barca allow that, nor should they. It wouldn't make any sense.
Whether Barca likes Atletico or not should not deter us fans from pushing the name WE want. They may not grant us with that name, but we as fans should still ask for what we like. In then end we can at least say we tried. These polls are not what we think Barca will choose, it's what we would like if we had a choice. Which Claure says we will.
IMO all FC Miami and Miami FC votes should be combined as a single category; splitting it up like that just makes the other choices look more significant than they really are. FCB Miami and Miami FCB should also be considered as part of the general FC Miami/Miami FC category. The letters FCB in FCB Miami don't even have to "stand for" FC Barcelona, either. FCB Miami could = Futbol Club Blaugrana de Miami. Assuming FC Barcelona can work out the marketing problems to allow their MLS team in Miami to retain FC Barcelona's color scheme for its Miami MLS uniforms, of course. Frankly any combination of initial letters and Miami should be one category: that includes CD Miami or CA Miami (ie Club Deportivo Miami or Club Atletico Miami). I don't see why FCB is so "horrible" yet somehow Atletico is "more authentic/more fan friendly". They are both names derived from foreign clubs; if you are going to borrow from foreign club names, it makes better sense to use a name derived from the foreign club that is actually helping to make this all happen in the first place! It's not like anyone here is suggesting something silly like "Barcelona USA" or anything like that. And you can talk about "what the fans want" all you want, but FC Barcelona isn't going to name the Miami team in MLS after one of their rivals in La Liga. Not gonna happen. Don't matter what Claure says.
The FIU stadium isn't that big and there's a pentup demand for pro soccer to come back to Florida, plus you have the added respectability and interest that the FC Barcelona connection brings. And maybe a big name DP. Remember, we're still talking only 20,000 seats in 2010 for FIU stadium, according to the wiki article at least; that's extremely easy to sell out. Sell outs after the expansion to 45,000 seats might be a lot more difficult but we'll see. It wouldn't surprise me if it does happen, assuming the new team is marketed and run properly.
I know it's somewhat off topic but the fact that MLS signed an exclusive deal with Adidas to be the sole kit supplier is moronic. It allows the league to lack individualism and charachter. Great kit styles (like Kappa's and Puma) will not be seen while the same Adidas ones are everywhere! And now... Barcelona might have an issue with the uniform they may want in Miami because of a tug of war between Adidas and Nike? Dumb! Let each team make their seperate shirt deals, LIKE THE REST OF THE WORLD!
Quoted for truth. If Adidas wants an exclusive deal with MLS, it should be limited to the MLS referee uniforms. If the deal extends to MLS team uniforms, there should be an opt-out clause so that individual MLS clubs could sign with another uniform supplier, maybe with the MLS club that chooses the other supplier paying Adidas a small "opt-out fee" or something, so Adidas gets its deal with MLS but the individual clubs could go elsewhere if they don't like Adidas. This is yet another example of lingering MLS Single Entity overkill.
Well how much of Barca's involvement in this is really relevant. Do they really have that much saying "not to allow it?" I have done a lot of reading and its been hard for me to determine if Barca will be a big factor on the team overall. I for one think that Miami will be a completely different entity to Barca. Its more like a partnership between the two clubs and one name should have no envolvement with the other. I do not agree with any part of Barca being part of the team name, jersey, emblem, ect. I don't think FCB Miami, Barca Miami or similar, should even be considered. If indeed the team were to be called Miami Athletic or Atletico Miami and that becomes the popular choice than lets go with it. Bottom line if the name fits MIAMI of course on an overall professional level, than there shouldn't be any barriers to stop that. As for Union for the name. I like it better than Fusion. It means the same but Union to me just has an overall fit. The pronounciation/spelling for one thing is the same in all the popular languages here in Miami. The meaning is perfect to describe Miami. If not Union than Miami Unity. I don't like 'United.' It's too synonymous to Manchester United and D.C. United.
So the name will ultimatley come down to what Barca wants? Can you confirm that? Please send me links, websites where i can read it for my self. All I know is that Barca is 'supporting' Claure to put a team in Miami.
I can tolerate Atletico only if it's done the way Lucho & Jaymillos have suggested: Atlectico Miami AND Miami Athletic. You include both groups then which might be the best way to go. The same could be done with United or Union, too. United Miami & Miami United; Union Miami & Miami Union. You could also add FC or AC before or after - FC Union Miami / Miami Union FC, etc. Although I strongly agree w/JonCid about where we are & due respect must be paid to it, I also think that here are more than a few ways to do that. In fact, because of the unique nature of this particular place, doing it just a bit differently & distinctively might be the best way to go. Is there any agreement with this?
I'm not saying that at all - I was just saying how relevant they are. But I cannot see Claure doing anything they do not want him to do. Basically, I think Claure will pick the name but Barca will have veto power - and no I don't have a link.
Couldn't agree with you more. Then it wouldn't be discriminatory. I like the name. I really do. I don't like that when it's limited to Spanish. But Miami Athletics would be the name, it would be acceptable to the league and to everyone, and the fans will take pleasure in also having that name be Atletico Miami, which again, I like. The only issue I felt needed to be brought up here to "stir the pot up" a bit, is the issue of English and respect for the USA, a nation I'm proud to be a part of, with a great and growing league built on the grassroots of fans - but fans need to realize we are not just Miami fans... we're fans of the beautiful game, and of this league by extension. I love the Athletics/Atletico idea.