But the thing is, who really cares about the U21? Ozil can well be capped more elegantly. Without such a chaos and taking such risk.
We're playing against RUSSIA! This is a bloody important match and I'm wondering why anyone in Germany doesn't seem to notice that - or maybe they believe we're going to win anyway? If we lose this match at home, we can already plan for a playoff round! Löw must pick the best available squad for this match and Özil is needed in the U21 which has their most important match too this week. He can still call him up against England.
Wait, we're playing Russia and WALES this week. And i dont really care about the U21 to be honest. If Loew thinks Ozil should be playing for U21 but taking the risk of losing him to Turkey. It proves his lack of vision/awareness. Now, if Ozil thinks the offer from the Turkish side is too attractive and go for it. Loew has to be responsible for this. Afterall, he is having a, lets' say, 21 men squad.........how on earth does it harm the squad to bring in another on form player and make it a 22 men squad? In that case, Ozil wont have the chance to consider Turkey's offer and can even be played on the Wales match on 15th October Now i think the media may give Ozil too much attention and pressure, too much pressure for a U21 player . and Thx Loew for creating this drama
He's only 19 Kirsten. He has all the time in the world to play international football, he would mental to demand to play so early in his career, which is known that he will get his chance if he keeps playing this way. We can't just have a team of U-21, look how many titles Arsenal have won because of it. First of all, if someone is that undecided about which country he should play for, I will pack his bags and send him to Turkey myself no matter how much he may be needed for Germany.
Well, Loew is thinking exactly the same and that's why he'll be playing for Turkey when he's 20. Everyone is so confident that Ozil is gonna play for us. But nothing is guranteed. And Loew's arrogance causes us to lose the biggest talent we have in years.
FFS, AGAIN this is not about impatience, it's about other people now starting to mess with the impressionable mind of a young man, tell him what he really wants to do etc., telling him that he has the better long-term perspective with Turkey etc. Secondly, don't be so arrogant and say "Well, if he is an a**hole, we'll be fine without him, there's the door", the truth is, we will not be fine without him and his likes (as we haven't been "fine" in quite a long time), we need to try to win over migrant kids for Germany, Allofs is right, everything else is foolish. Even worse, Equilibrium, "Germany has won 3 World Cups and 3 Euros without having to do these silly things", WAKE UP, German society (including due to migration) has changed a lot since Germany won something the last time, and it's fair to say that the reason we haven't won anything in 12 years largely has to do with ignoring change and resting on the laurels. Anyway, I'm mildly optimistic here, also because his club wants him to play for Germany.
Calm down. Özat plays in the GERMAN U21, some very important play off matches. He's very needed there. And he knows that. Löw spoked with him and will continue with that, he promises. U see, the situation is far from "Germany and Löw ignore him, so he moves to Turkey".
If I wasn't calm, that was because people wrote the same non-sense ("impatience"! Is it really so difficult to put yourself into Özil's head?) a second time without considering anything written in between. Just like you now repeated your previous statement as if I hadn't got your points. But IF Özil chooses Turkey, you'll look stupid for 14 years. PS: If Allofs is seriously concerned (though optimistic) and demands the DFB to do everything, then I guess I have reason to be seriously concerned (though optimistic), too.
Kicker: Özil will play for Germany http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/nationalelf/startseite/artikel/383723/
This is officially the best quote of the year And yes, the arrogance inside the Germans is a big obstacle of them. "he is 19 so he should wait............" wtf? He will be the most creative player in our NT if he makes it. I think the NT should only have players who deserve it, whether 19 or 36 shouldnt be a reason to kick them out of the NT. N in his case, he deserves to be a NT player. So if Turkey gives him a nice offer, i think thats logical for him to consider it. And i want to emphasize one thing: Nothing is guranteed.
I still dont understand one thing: Why does Werder Bremen actually give a damn about where he plays for? Does it affect their Champions League's domestic players quota or something?
They've paid a lot of money for a German youth international - not for a turkish youth international. If Özil had played for Turkey at that time, Bremen never would have paid so much. The German national team will raise Özil's market value, which means that Bremen would get a lot more money when another clubs comes and signs Özil. Apart from that, Bremen gets more prestige if they have more German internationals.
Mainly that, but I'm also sure the German NT still has a real place in Allofs' heart. Which I also think is largely true for Uli Hoeneß btw, not so much for Rummenigge these days.
Hoeness.....maybe not. If yes, he wouldn't bench so many of our NT/potential NT players n keep bringing in foreigners. Again...........Kroos and Podolski should leave or two bright talents will be ruined. Thats another topic of coz. I thought, for every team that participates hte champions League, thye need to register a certain amount of domestic players, like 10/11? Maybe if Ozil really plays for Turkey, Werder may have to replace some random domestic youngster for his place.
da-dah! i cant believe people were asking something obvious! i am with you and kirsten on the oezil topic. He shouldn't have to really "wait" just because he's 19. The fact is hes good enough to make the squad right now. So if he isnt included then he better have been talked to about being included for the next round.
what is so important about these u21 playoffs? in any case, with his performances for werder warranting a national team call-up and with turkey poking their noses in, it would be very wise to tell him that he will be called up as soon as this round of u21 playoffs are over. Why? Because we DO need him because his displays for werder HAVE been good enough.
The winner will participate at the U21 Europe Championship. And the opponent is France with a relly strong team.
Reality check; The DFB should not loose focuse on our youth teams and goals because of what 98.5% of the population think!
The population is right to think that the senior national teams are the real thing, so I care a lot about youth players but fairly little about youth teams, whatever is good to develop top talent capable of breaking into the senior team is useful. After U-17, I think the focus must be increasingly on breaking into senior teams and learning from senior players, first club, then country. I also care about those German talents who won't make it into the national team, but these in particular can learn most of what they need to learn in their club environment, plus the occasional DFB training course.