Yesterday Garber said that the next 7 days will be important for other details about 2011 expansion. There are 8 team for 2 places ( NYC, Montreal, Vancouver, Ottawa, Atlanta, St Louis, Portland and Las Vegas ). In my opinion are surely out Ottawa, Las Vegas. Of the other 6 teams I think that Atlanta and Portland have few chances. So remain 4 great candidates ( NYC, 2 Canadians and St Louis ). Now in my opinion in 2011 can be there only 1 canadian team, and if St Louis is still the favourite for the 17th team, THE RACE FOR THE 18TH TEAM WILL BE BETWEEN NYC AND 1 CANADIAN CITY ( I THINK MONTREAL ). Therefore I think that we have great chances for 2011 and if Wilpon will present a plan of the stadium in August, I am sure that will there be not problems for be ready for April 2011. I hope only that in the next days The Borough Boys can have a new contact with Wilpon for explain him this new developments and above all with Garber for explain him that probably Wilpon will present a plan for stadium soon and that is right wait more than a week to decide important things about next 2 teams. Go NYCFC : 2011 is absolutely possible !!!! What is the opinion of the Borough Boys ?
We remain in contact with all the parties involved in one way or the other. Now dont get me wrong - we dont exactly have a BAT PHONE to any offices but we remain in contact. Wilpon does not need us to tell him, honestly, HE KNOWS HIS SHHH with this league!
Thank you, Nick. Are you agree with me that THE RACE FOR THE 18TH TEAM PROBABLY WILL BE BETWEEN NYC AND 1 CANADIAN CITY ( I THINK MONTREAL ) ?
Yea dude - i agree with you but I would add Portland too! 18 is not going to be easy but if it goes to Montreal or Protland - dont worry - we will still get our team if we have anything to say about it ha ha NYCFC should sign Levezzi
Lavezzi and Denis. What do you think Christian ? Nick I wish ONLY the 2011 !!!!!! 2012 must be just the LAST CHANCE for the Borough BOYS !!!!!
No Not LAST CHANCE! The league wants a second NY TEAM - Eventually its going ot happen! They want it sooner than later! As do we and now it looks closer than ever! Its going to happen - just a metter of when. If things dont go the right way now - another investor will come in - There will be a SECOND NY TEAM! Hopefully REALLY SOON!
Excuse me; Nick. I wished to say that we must to do the possible and the impossible to put NYCFC in MLS already by 2011, if it's absolutely impossible then we wait until 2012.....
Thing is i dont think its in Wilpon's hands right now, i think if he is really deeply involved in the idea he knows what has to happen to submit a solid expansion bid. There is a lot of things that need to happen for the bid to come..maybe they can pull it off, maybe not. But one thing seems clear, Wilpon and friends look to be behind the 8-ball with respect to other canidates being considered. Vancouver today will annunce their formal expansion bid for a MLS team. Montreal has already submited an official bid for consideration. St. Louis is in the advanced process of an expasion bid. Portland, has made no official bid but they do have some pieces falling into place with respect to the stadium they play in becoming theirs exclusivly in a couple years. For NYC to get into the 2011 timeline they are going to have to find a feasable resolution to the stadium issues and the political issues facing them. Not impossible but they have their work cut out for them.
Onion - we know you dont want to believe us and we know we arent your fav people - but While you are right in your points, I hae to say - ITS NOT AS FAR OFF AS YOU THINK! Trust me! In a few weeks you will see!
I think its established a second NYC team is not in my interest, clearly, esecially at this point in my hijacked club's stae of things. But that doesn't preclude me from being able to have a rational discussion about the potential bid based on information available and being reasonable in an assesment. Also, i think its clear that while your efforts are not in my personal interests i have always applauded your efforts irrespective of that fact. I also dont have any internal distaste for any of you dispite whatever clashes we may have ever had here. But i just dont see how NYC can be ahead of these other teams right now, not as long as the Stadium issue and the Willets Point (with respect to Queens) remains unresolved. I dont doubt there has been progess made by your efforts, but with only 2 teams being aproved for 2011 and given the other markets in play i have to think the idea of NYC2 may have to wait until 2012 or beyond.
Personally, I think 2011 is a stretch. Nevertheless, Don Garber and other owners want a NYC team. So if the 18th team is announced for 2011 and it's not NYC, but there is an agreement to build the stadium, the league would make us #19 in a heartbeat.
If NY confirms a new stadium, it's a done deal at anytime of any year, let's be realistic (major market). However, Montreal is pretty much in : we're speaking about present owners that can afford an NFL franchise, and the Montreal Canadiens' owner is going in as a partner. M.SAPUTO spoke at the All-Star game and stated that his team can be available for 2009 season (if called upon) with the addition of 3 players. They have a GM working, a minor league team, so they don't even have to have an expansion draft. Don't forget that Montreal is the French market so it doesn't interfere with no other teams.
yeah... i'm going to make my prediction now.... 2011: St.Louis & Montreal 2012: NYC & Vancouver (maybe Portland)
Dude - im not saying dont come to the baords - you know I respect you and your opinion. I dont care you post here! Im just saying that while you dont care about NY2 - we do! And pay more attention so trust us when we say - its not as far off as you think.
Onion let's speculate for a minute here. I've always stated that RBP was being delayed on purpose for reasons unbeknownst to anyone. (you guys gave me IMMENSE HEAT FOR THAT). Anyhow let's look at this scenario. A. Delays cause RBP to be delayed until opening day 2009. (considering the amount of construction so far in Harrison this isnt that fetched) B. Wilpon and our SSS are announced and construction begins after the demolition of Shea (i've said this many times over the past 1 1/2 years, as I've heard it rumored in the corona area) C. Both teams NYC and NJ are ready to go for OPENING DAY 2010. Now again this is complete speculation and we all know where that realm is but sometimes these things have a way of playing themselves out. Maybe the league is looking to match things up, and make NOISE. Tony, answer me this, ARE YOU READY?? Oh and you never got back to me about the protest? What's up?
Well, you were also saying it was being delayed in order to get into the New Meadowlands too, so lets not go tooting your own horn too fast. I know why there have been delays. It has to do with a certain land owner that feels a little left out of redevelopment in Harrision and likes to appeal every permit application. Its not part of some grand conspiracy as you often would speculate on. As for the protest stuff....that wont be decided until Tuesday.
There are a lot of us here who hate the Yellow shirts to - if you want people to help with a protest - im sure a bunch of us would be out there to help you. Just throwing it out there!
Oh no Brandon !!!! I don't realize a thing : 3 or 4 months ago all the Borough Boys were very optimistic and they said that there were great hopes for 2010. In these months these fantastic boys have had exceptional results ( meeting with city players, Garber and above all Wilpon, who has said to be VERY STRONGLY INTERESTED ). We know that maybe ( I don't want to say probably because Nick to get angry with me ) Wilpon will present a 30.000 soccer plan near Citifield this summer and that also the main politic man of Willets Point ( Monserratte ) is agree for a soccer stadium. Why now that finally there are so many good news many boys say that maybe there isn't the necessary time for a soccer stadium in Queens ? If Wilpon is truly interested and presents his soccer plan in this summer, I think that the city can approve it in the end of 2008 and from the end 2008 to April 2011 there are 2.5 years !!!!! Maybe 2.5 years are insufficients in Italy to build a 30.000 soccer stadium, but not in NYC ( the Empire State Building has been built in 18 months ) !!!! I maybe think that also in NYC like in Napoli, there is only much counter-spell and I am sure that most of Borough Boys think really that we can put the NYCFC in MLS by 2011, but don't want to say it.......
I presume you mean 2010. MLS Opening Day 2010 will be in March or April 2010. The earliest Shea can be knocked down is November, and that seems awfully quick to me (there is prep work involved, it's not like the Mets win the World Series one day and the next day bye bye stadium). I say no way they can knock down a stadium and build a new one that quickly. 2011 might even be pushing it. Not to say MLS wouldn't accommodate that however. Well, NY will be around in 2010 no matter what, and they better be in RBP by then. No way Paper FC plays in 2010 unless they're sharing RBP for a year or find some other temporary situation. Now, if Senor Wilpon has a plan in place, then MLS could play 2010 with 16 or 17 surely.
It's a slightly different time than when the Empire State Building was constructed. Life doesn't work that way anymore. Bruce Rattner is having all kinds of problems building an arena for a sport that's really popular in NYC, despite having the backing of every relevant politician. Now, it helps that Wilpon already has the land if the stadium is going where Shea is now (but is it actually?). and even then 2011 might be optimistic. It's no slam dunk for sure. Optimism is wonderful, but realism is nice too.
The nets are having a hard time building in the vast wastelands of crooklyn cause its a populated area there are homes to buy out buisness to relocate...the nets and the mets soccer are 2 different situations The NYC stadium is going up once Shea is torn down....that is a fact... not the triangle not any where else.... on top of shea..(where it once stood) That might be a bad Idea I say move it a few feet away from the shea grounds seeing how its voodooed cause in 40 years of shea mets only won twice..... any ways on the lot where shea sits now is where it will happen... No parks to tear down no homes to buy out no buisness to relocate no any thing zero just a parking lot and no one will have an issue with building there.......think the junk collectors will have an issue??? they work in filth what issues could they have??? no residential area to think about and across the street is flushing meadows park which aint being violated in any form the park stays unaffected..... they are building in the parking lot just like the ************ giants and aids infested jets and the KKK NJSEA are building that abortion to that awful sport in the meadowlands parking lot...... I rather have all this mystery have wilpon stay quiet and announce the deal when its a 100% done deal.... and not have the emotional roller coster that is happeneing in harrison.... where every day there is a new date of a grand opening at that rate they will be done in 2020.... all hail the new NY team.... MONSTER ENERGY DRINK NY FC el clasico de las bevidas ridiculas!!!!! why not a drink derby............ we can even get another drink company to sponcer a cup.... RB vs MED for the SIERA MYIST CUP
If the stadium is going on top of Shea, then yes, I agree. Fact is too strong a word. It would be nice, sure, but let's not get carried away. Fair enough, but at least it's under construction. It's going damn slow though it seems. Now that's an idea!