CONCACAF Champions' Cup Statistics 1997-2008

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  1. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The following information is from Wikipedia:

    From 1997 to 2008 there haver been 11 Champions' Cups, one in every year except 2001. I started with 1997, the year MLS teams started participating. Every Champions' Cup has started with 8 teams except for two that started with 16.

    1. Mexico has 20 semifinal appearances out of the 44 possible during that time. MLS has 14, Costa Rica has 9, and CD Olimpia from Honduras in 2000 is the only team from any other country to win in the quarterfinals or later. Mexico has had over 75% of their quarterfinalists make the semifinals. Costa Rica has had 60 percent, and MLS a little better than that. The 25 quarterfinal appearances by teams from other countries yielded the 1 aforementioned quarterfinal victor by CD Olimpia.

    2. A majority of the 37 different clubs to make the quarterfinals during that time have come from Mexico (12) or MLS (7). Here is a list of the 11 clubs with 3 or more quarterfinal appearances:
    D.C. United (USA): 7
    Alajuelense (Costa Rica): 7 (I was surprised they had more appearances than the next team)
    Deportivo Saprissa (Costa Rica): 6
    Toluca (Mexico): 5
    CF Pachuca (Mexico): 5
    CD Olimpia (Honduras): 5
    San Jose Earthquakes/Houston Dynamo (USA): 4
    Los Angeles Galaxy (USA): 4
    Chicago Fire (USA): 3
    Municipal (Guatemala): 3
    Joe Public (Trinidad and Tobago): 3

    The four remaining clubs in 2008 have all made at least 4 of the last 11 Champions' Cups.

    Later I plan on posting more about such things as average rounds advanced for countries and for clubs with several appearances.
     
  2. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Correcting what I previously posted, CD Olimpia has actually advanced 2 rounds, not 1.

    A majority of the 74 (will be 77 after this year) matchups have been been won by Mexican teams. The totals are 38 from Mexico, 19 from USA, 15 from Costa Rica, and 2 from Honduras. Here is a list of the 11 clubs with 3 or more rounds advanced from 1997 to the present excluding the Round of 16 when it existed:
    D.C. United (USA): 9 (advanced at least to the semifinals in every appearance) (still in 2008 Champions’ Cup)
    Deportivo Saprissa (Costa Rica): 8 (still in 2008 Champions’ Cup)
    CF Pachuca (Mexico): 8 (still in 2008 Champions’ Cup)
    Alajuelense (Costa Rica): 7
    Toluca (Mexico): 7
    Los Angeles Galaxy (USA): 5
    Necaxa (Mexico): 4
    Morelia (Mexico): 4
    Club America (Mexico): 4
    Cruz Azul (Mexico): 3
    Chivas Guadalajara (Mexico): 3

    19 (a majority) of the 37 clubs to have made the quarterfinals at least once have not advanced any rounds during that time.

    Average Rounds Won Per Quarterfinal Appearance (Minimum 3 Appearances):
    CF Pachuca (Mexico): 8/5 = 1.6 (still in 2008 Champions’ Cup)
    Toluca (Mexico): 7/5 = 1.4
    Deportivo Saprissa (Costa Rica): 8/6 = 1.3 (that digit repeats forever)
    D.C. United (USA): 9/7 = 1.285714 (those six digits repeat forever) (still in 2008 Champions’ Cup)
    Los Angeles Galaxy (USA): 5/4 = 1.25
    Alajuelense (Costa Rica): 7/7 = 1
    Chicago Fire (USA): 2/3 = 0.6 (that digit repeats forever)
    San Jose Earthquakes/Houston Dynamo (USA): 2/4 = 0.5 (still in 2008 Champions’ Cup)
    CD Olimpia (Honduras): 2/5 = 0.4
    Municipal (Guatemala): 0/3 = 0
    Joe Public (Trinidad and Tobago): 0/3 = 0

    The average rounds advanced per quarterfinal appearance = 74/88 = 0.84(09 repeating), which will improve to 77/88 = 0.875 after this year's tournament is complete. With 8 teams and 7 rounds to advance per year the average rounds per quarterfinal appearance after any number of complete tournaments will be 0.875. The 11 clubs above have advanced 50 rounds past the quarterfinals in 52 appearances (and could advance more this year), which is an average of 0.962. All clubs not on that list have a combined 24 rounds advanced past the quarterfinals in 36 appearances, for an average of 2/3 = 0.6 (repeating forever).
     
  3. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I look at your blog but I didn't think about looking at your blog for that. I have a correction for the 2007 Quarterfinals on you blog:
    "Puntarenas 0:1 Houston" should be 1:0
     
  4. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
    right, thanks
     
  5. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    The only Champions Cup statistics that matter

    Club America 5 time champions
    Cruz Azul 5 time champions
    Pumas 3 time champions
    Saprissa 3 time champions
     
  6. Nazzer

    Nazzer New Member

    Jan 12, 2008
    Penticton,BC,Canada
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Do the historical records of how many times teams have won the Champions' Cup really mean anything when you consider how pathetically run it was for so long?

    As recently as 1984 the winner of the tournament was decided by virtue of other teams dropping out, this has happened 6 times in the history of the tournament.
     
  7. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico

    they mean more than any other statistic on this thread
     
  8. gethomas3

    gethomas3 Red Card

    Aug 3, 2007
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Deportivo Saprissa
    Nat'l Team:
    Costa Rica
    It is about to be:

    Club America Pentacampeon
    Cruz Azul Pentacampeon
    Deportivo Saprissa Tetracampeon
    UNAM Pumas Tricampeon
     

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