Peru vs Ecuador -Partido Revancha in Barcelona -Pre/Dur/Post Match Thread[R]

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  1. Guti™

    Guti™ Moderator

    Mar 6, 2005
    La Victoria
    Club:
    Alianza Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    I have a feeling, I dont know why, but I have a feeling that Zorrito will be called up for la Copa. He would be great as a 4th striker, plus he has a lot of chemistry with Farfan and Guerrero.

    Sera la sorpresa de la convocatoria.

    Aqui mismo lo firmo. :D
     
  2. peruytu

    peruytu Member

    Jan 19, 2003
    New York
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Mendoza es una desgracia... his name should be crossed out from the face of this earth.

    Those two defensive mistakes could be due to lack of concentration.. or simply from being tired. When one is tired you obviously lose concentration, your mind is somewhere else trying to fight your body. Ecuador are obviously more physically fit than Peru... have you seem their black players? Compare our blacks to their blacks, you'll see what I mean.
     
  3. ArRiBa_PeRu!

    ArRiBa_PeRu! New Member

    Jan 11, 2007
    zorrito?? ni los digas weon, los delanteros deben ser pizarro, farfan, guerrero, gonzales vigil y Mostto.
     
  4. Latin Pride

    Latin Pride Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    In your house
    Club:
    Olimpia Asuncion
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Hes confused

    Take it from me, being mixed with 2 countries that are in the same confederation and constantly play each can be a b*tch :eek: :D
     
  5. Peruvian_6663

    Peruvian_6663 Member+

    May 28, 2005
    In my House
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    he means aguirre
     
  6. Guti™

    Guti™ Moderator

    Mar 6, 2005
    La Victoria
    Club:
    Alianza Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Ahi nomas tienes a 3 jugadores con las mismas caracteristicas. Tres #9s.

    Pizarro puede ser uno tambien pero el usualmente juega un poco mas atras.

    Necesitamos a un delantero habil que vaya por fuera como Farfan.

    Ademas debes estar bromeando con lo de Mostro :rolleyes: el pata no tiene la calidad para este tipo de competancias. Es cualquier improvisado que tuvo sus 15 minutos de fama el año pasado al ser el goleador de la liga, es otro Holsen.
     
  7. ArRiBa_PeRu!

    ArRiBa_PeRu! New Member

    Jan 11, 2007

    Entonces aparte de pizarro, farfan, y guerrero who would u get for la copa america?
     
  8. ArRiBa_PeRu!

    ArRiBa_PeRu! New Member

    Jan 11, 2007
    by the way peru played alot better than ecuador alot alot better. Ecuador won cause that ugly mono got the ball in the box cause of an error and he doenst even know how the ball got in the net. ecuatorianos juegan al pelotazos piensan q estan en la jungla.
     
  9. Guti™

    Guti™ Moderator

    Mar 6, 2005
    La Victoria
    Club:
    Alianza Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Depende cuantos delanteros decida llevar Bembasten.

    Ojala lleve 5 porque nuestro mayor problema en la Copa pasada fue la falta de delanteros. Los mios serian

    Pizarro
    Farfan
    Guerrero
    Gonzalez-Vigil
    Aguirre

    Hubiera puesto a Malingas en lugar de Vigil si jugara mas en San Lorenzo pero ya han pasado meses y es pura banca nomas. No entra ni a tomar agua. Una pena porque siempre que entro le respondio al Pelado Diaz.
     
  10. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    And Peru won the game before due to an auto gol...so it's not even like Peru scored TWICE on Ecuador. :rolleyes:

    BTW, what jungle are you talking about?? The 10x10 piece of Amazonia in Ecuador's back yard?? They lost 90% of the "jungla" to some friendly neighbor in the 1940's. ;)
     
  11. Broncano

    Broncano Moderator

    Jul 31, 2006
    Lima
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    So far your posts here have been mostly all about common sense and class.
    But this last one we can do without.
    Peru outplayed Ecuador for most of the first game and throuroughly deserved to win. Tonight they did the same for about 80 minutes. I know that doesn;t mean crap if you don't score. Well that has been a life-long ailment of us.
    But the way I see it you guys have a lot of things to worry about. Mexico, Chile and Brazil won't let you off the hook so easily.

    Oh and yes, do us a favor and don't bring politics into this. Thanks
     
  12. Guti™

    Guti™ Moderator

    Mar 6, 2005
    La Victoria
    Club:
    Alianza Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    An Ecuador scored because of a dive. :rolleyes:

    Not to mention Farfan's 2nd goal which was unfairly invalidated by the ref because of a "foul" to your GK. Guerrero won that ball fairly.
     
  13. Guti™

    Guti™ Moderator

    Mar 6, 2005
    La Victoria
    Club:
    Alianza Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Que conformista este csm.

    http://www.peru.com/futbol/AutoNoticias/FutbolPortada/2007/06/06/DetalleNoticia90266.asp
     
  14. Broncano

    Broncano Moderator

    Jul 31, 2006
    Lima
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    En realidad, ni lo uno ni lo otro.

    Ni eramos la cagada cuando ganamos el Domingo
    Ni somos una desgracia cuando perdimos hoy.

    Peru no ha jugado mal, el tema defensivo esta casi en un 80% listo. Un gol de corner es algo que puede suceder y el segundo se produjo porque el equipo estaba volcado en cancha de Ecuador.

    El problema como siempre ha sido la definicion y paso casi totalmente por la brujeria que tiene encima Mendoza. Lo importante es que las ocasiones de gol se crearon y por montones. Lo malo fue que casi todas fueron para Mendoza. Malingas o Claudio hubieran mojado en esas circunstancias de todas maneras.

    El equipo se esta consolidando, no hay que desesperarse. bembasten lo veo por primera vez con una idea de juego. Es decir se ve a lo que el equipo juega y murio en su ley... Me gusta verlo a Bazalar en medio con gran despliegue y a Farfan como enganche generando mucho futbol.

    La falta de gol es nuestro problema de toda la vida. Pero no hay que perder la esperanza. Se esta formando un grupo y no hay que olvidar que el objetivo es SUDAFRICA. No me importaria para nada salir en la primera rueda de la Copa America si el equipo sigue jugando con el orden tactico de estos dos partidos. Lo del final fue un descalabro defensivo y ahi hay que trabajar pero no es un tema tan grave como ver un equipo que no va para atras ni para adelante.

    Repito, Ecuador tiene que estar mucho mas preocupado que nosotros.
    Aparte de los pelotazos y defensas troncos que meten patada a todo lo que se mueve ese equipo no ha mostrado absolutamente nada.
     
  15. peruytu

    peruytu Member

    Jan 19, 2003
    New York
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Responding to this crap kinda lowers my IQ by a few points, but even with those few points less I will definitely sound a lot better than you.. so, I didn't see the game and I will not come out with any excuse, just with simple facts. According to posts here, in your forums, Peruvian press and even ecuadorian press.. Peru played a better game than ecuador. These sort of games do happen every once in a while, the better team loses. Facts: ecuador scored on two Peruvian errors and our disgrace of a striker, Mendoza (who will probably never be called again) missed quite a few goals. Hell, even in one of the posts in your forums somebody said "We were lucky that their forward(s) suck.." Lucky... yes lucky... and also lucky to have won this game.

    Peru comes out on top no matter what the score is... Peru won the first game convincingly and even though lost this second one, proved to be the better team. Simple as that.. you cannot deny the facts, can you?
     
  16. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Fine, but I have to say...I did come in here only so I could get a feel of the game. Being in my office, I could not watch the game (Sunday, I could...so of course I wasn't around). Why am I not in the EC thread? Because it's a little dead...I guess most posters were actually out watching the game and not infront of their computer...so a Peruvian on our forum kindly invited me here.

    And great, I somewhat followed the game but I am truly amazed at how racists some of these posters are...I mean really, if I heard someone on the German or Ec thread like that, I would shut him up immediatly, but here, it's your thread so I just kept out for most of it the insults guided towards the Ecuadorian people - big deal, you know? In reality, I don't take it personally, but if I where Peruvian, I would definetly be embarressed to hear my people talk like that about a brother country. The level of rudeness is very uninviting...really I have only encountered that in Mexican forums like this - most others are great and awseome discussions are developed.

    Did Peru deserve to win?? Maybe not, I did not watch the game. Sure, a tie was probably fair but there is no such thing as "the best team wins" and history in this sport has shown this over and over again.

    But c'mon, to call someone a monkey in a jungle that accidently bounced a ball into the net....thats just wrong. So out of the 5 gols in the last 2 games ECU-PER...Ecuador scored 4!! Part of lack of concentration is part of the game...just ask any Bayern Munich player that lost the CL final to MAN U in 99. And winning with an own goal, it's part of the game as well, and not agreeing with a ref giving a penalty...well, that's the beautiful game!

    ESPN deportes actually said Ecuador came on top if you look at the "tabla". Look, I'm German so for a long time in history I have not cared how brilliantly Germany plays...it was dull and boring but they won. Now, thanks to Klinsman, they have adoped a more entertaining kind of football - Thank God!! My point is, the score at the end of 90 minutes is all that counts. I rather win ugly than to lose...you get what I mean?

    Results matter, so if maybe Peru played better...good for them. It must suck knowing they played better walking into the dressing room having lost 2-0. Teams win because the other team makes mistakes...that happens all the time, it's no excuse, that's why defenders are professional athletes that are just as important as the midfield and forwards. Peru was the better team...I didn't watch the games either but if all you guys say so...then fine. Peru WAS the better team. But it was Ecuador that won.

    Anyway, have a great night...see you in Copa America if either team makes it out of their group! That will be the decider....I'm off to celebrate Germany's victory over Slovakia with friends, my wife and some good homemade beer!!
     
  17. Broncano

    Broncano Moderator

    Jul 31, 2006
    Lima
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Some of the comments were out of line, and i apologize for that.
    Tensions run high in these kind of games and some will behave like animals. It's like I told you earlier with the tabloid cover, let the low lifes be low lifes, don't sink to their level by arguing with them about a war that took place before your parents were even born.
     
  18. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Agreed!! Thanks...a cold beer awaits and I'd invite you to join! :)


    Goodnight.
     
  19. BorrachoNJ

    BorrachoNJ New Member

    Apr 8, 2001
    NEW BRUNSWICK, NJ
    este partido 'staba mas aburrido que la palabra....

    my poor pop passed out by the 55th minute.:D
     
  20. ArRiBa_PeRu!

    ArRiBa_PeRu! New Member

    Jan 11, 2007
     
  21. JacopeX

    JacopeX Member

    Feb 4, 2006
    USA
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Well good thing I missed the game. Had to train the U-10 kids. :rolleyes:

    Anyways, que paso? 2-0? ayi me pierdo dos dollares a mi amigo ecuatoriano! Conifie a Peru demasiado que me no me dava cuenta de Mendoza como titular. :mad:

    Y ese Mendoza falla como el pavo que es. Mas burro los faltas que veo en el Highlights. Que le quita la camiseta para siempre oye!
     
  22. Peruvian_6663

    Peruvian_6663 Member+

    May 28, 2005
    In my House
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru

    y r u even here?
    who the ******** cares wat u say?

    ur only goal was on a pen btw, that didnt exist
     
  23. maestri09

    maestri09 Member+

    Jun 14, 2006
    Toronto, Canada
    Club:
    Alianza Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
     
  24. ArRiBa_PeRu!

    ArRiBa_PeRu! New Member

    Jan 11, 2007
     
  25. AL#7

    AL#7 Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Australia
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    i saw the second half of the match, listen the first in ovacion, and saw the whole match of madrid...
    Honestly we are better than I though we were. We got a win and a loss, but there are a good things worth mentioning. We dominated Ecua in both games, with them only scoring a couple in the last 10 minutes with a blooper of our defence. They certainly made no merits to deserve the victory, and i agree that we were not the best team of the world in Madrid nor the worst in Barcelona.

    Uribe's new system with 3 at the back and two wingbacks help to maintain a solid backline, which with more training and familiarity of the players will improve. In madrid, Mudo was the Libero, but in that position he needs to talk lots more, his position and leadership is fundamental to maintain order. I dont doubt his skills, but he needs to be louder. The new system also allows some freedom to AK7 to defend all over the park, and attack, and when we are defending one on one, he is always the extra man who helps out, so he is doing a good job, and he is benefited from this system. the other stopper, Villalta apart from the penalty which came out of a misunderstanding of the backline, no la cago but neither played phenomenal. Good to be on the bench, or play when requested. I would try Vilchez who i liked yesterday, though he was better than Hidalgo, plus he has good shot strengh.

    The sidebacks need to improve. just like in attack where farfan and guerrero play in the wings and create danger, we need to play in the wings and start plays from defence. Prado is not in a national team level. Galliquio is an option, didnt perform in barcelona the same as in Madrid, but for a big guy he is fast and has a gentle touch. on the left, once again Hidalgo has dissapointed me. His speed is falling, he is allrigth at setpieces, but I say Vargas plays in there, permanently now. And as for Ramos, well like i read somewhere, at least now he went to Madrid and Barcelona, while in Muni he doesnt even go to Chincha...

    Bazalar in mid, the cienciano grandad, i like how he plays, calm and with precision. Yeah, like the rest of you, i agree he is too old, but he is very good at distributing the ball, and had two alrigth matches. De la Haza, who played in his position, had little time to show what he can bring to the table, although it is notorious the will and desire to perform good when you see him play. he has a good attitude. Ismodes is the new pearl of peruvian football, and in Barcelona he played better. Unless he got injured, i cannot explain why Uribe took him out. He needs to put some weight on (common problem in Peruvian football) as after being a nigthmare in the first half for the ecuador defence, Hurtado stopped him with ruthless marking, and being stronger and knowing how to use it due to his experience, he controlled him in the second half. He has a bright future. Farfan is the man, he played good in that position as behind the strikers, although maybe he needs to work a little bit on his stamina, i too noticed he become not as explosive in the second halfs as in the first half. His touch, speed, agility, ability, strengh at all still intact if not better. Herrera had little time to show his abilities.

    Guerrero has improved a lot since last time, he knows how to hold the ball very well, and he come out victorious in many clashes with the tall ecuadorian defence. I think with Pizarro and everything, he should be in the starting eleven. Impressed me, a constant danger. As for Mendoza:mad: , well looking at the positive, maybe Uribe is now 100% decided that based on his perfomance, he should not be called anymore. Out of the like 7 chances he had on both matches added up, Pizarro would have gotten at least 3. Hell even Zuniga would have gotten 1. If anything, Jimenez should take his spot for the copa.

    The defence needs improving, the mid needs a creator, and the offence is OK. With Solano we can improve the midsection, as long Juvenal and the rest learnt to accept they are a mediocre group, and that the sele is OF Peru and not of the commision. Pizarro would certainly improve the striker department, he cant do worse than Mendoza, Marino could fight with Ismodes for a spot in midfield, while Cruzado and Bazalar the same in DM section. Rengifo didnt do much, and Vigil should be in the squad and Cespedes instead of Ramos.
     

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