Rebuilding for the Clausura

Discussion in 'Sporting Cristal' started by condor11, May 16, 2007.

  1. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    this apertura has to be the worst start of a season we have had in well ages

    changes are needed

    first we need a coach..el Ciego is a possibility

    then we need reinforcements

    one that is being mentioned is Chorri
    http://www.elbocon.com.pe/Primera Division_desarrollo.php?nota_id=15026&nota_seccion=

    also Hidalgo
    http://www.elbocon.com.pe/Sporting Cristal_desarrollo.php?nota_id=14994&nota_seccion=1

    but more importantly we need our current players to either regain their form from last year..Amilton Prado and Rayner Torres

    get some consistency..Erick Delgado

    and get injury free...Juan Cominges and Miguel Rebosio

    also for the Camello situation to be resolved asap
    http://www.elbocon.com.pe/Sporting Cristal_desarrollo.php?nota_id=14995&nota_seccion=
     
  2. superfrantheman

    superfrantheman Red Card

    Nov 11, 2006
    Olvidados de Dios
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    hidalgo? that would be nice for us

    but he would be missing sudamericana right? with inter de brasil

    and that would be bad for peru NT, he wouldnt be p;laying agianst braziliana new players, he will be now facing machito gomez, rossell, german carty and all those matones
     
  3. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    apparently he would be to expensive for Internacional to keep, so that makes me wonder how we could afford him
     
  4. Guti™

    Guti™ Moderator

    Mar 6, 2005
    La Victoria
    Club:
    Alianza Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    I don't see Hidalgo coming back to Peru for another 2 years.

    I can see him in Mexico though.
     
  5. superfrantheman

    superfrantheman Red Card

    Nov 11, 2006
    Olvidados de Dios
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    well we can stop mantaining AL, AA sullana, U, Cienciano and the rest of peruvian team, and hire better players
     
  6. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    we have the players to win the peruvian championship

    specially if you consider the sorta level the Peruvian league is

    guys like
    Delgado, Villalta, Rebosio, Prado, Torres, Soto, Cominges, Orejuela and Bonnet

    that should be enough to be top 6 with a blind guy as a coach

    problem is getting those guys fit and playing consistant or in some cases both

    like Guti said I dont see us getting Hidalgo and Chorri..we dont have the money for that i dont think

    to me its a matter of getting the squad playing like they know how
     
  7. superfrantheman

    superfrantheman Red Card

    Nov 11, 2006
    Olvidados de Dios
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    yes but still we need to hire some players too, and get rid of some others too

    the amian probelam with cristal is injuries i think, and thats when alvarez, pinza hernandez play for us
     
  8. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
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    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    yeah maybe but not many are really needed, maybe a Left back and a new foward cause Garcia and Chara havnt quite worked out, i like Soria but he is more of a midfielder than a defender even by Peruvian fullback standards

    Chorri would be good for what he means to Cristal, but he hasnt played in ages so we cant expect him to walk in and fix everything

    like you said we need to get the squad healthy

    Camello needs to sort his crap out, he is apparently coming back for el Clausura so lets hope he has his head on one thing and that getting us out of the bottom of the table

    Delgado has been our best player against Alianza and Cienciano he needs to put those performances against the lesser teams aswell

    Amilton Prado needs to get his form back, same goes for Rayner

    a fit Rebosio is also needed, asking him to play like its 1997 is a bit naive, but if he regains some sort of form, that would be enough for our League

    him and Villalta on paper at least would be a top 3 pairing in our league

    Cominges is another who needs to get back to his form, this guy to me is the most talented in the peruvian league at the moment, we need him at 100%
     
  9. ROMERO879

    ROMERO879 Member

    Apr 28, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Soto isn't going to play for the rest of the Apertura?
    Bullshit, we are in our worst season and he leaves. :rolleyes:
     
  10. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    yep, sure Sampaoli said he wasnt needed so that was the main reason why he wasnt playing

    but he is gone now and we do need him

    whos the captain in his absense? is it Bonnet?
     
  11. superfrantheman

    superfrantheman Red Card

    Nov 11, 2006
    Olvidados de Dios
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    we already know soto and bonnet arent good like before, they should not start all the games, but they should be subs and play 15 or 20 moniutes each game

    plus dont forget how many points we won tanks to el camello

    and bonnet, dont forget how many goals he's scored to la U
     
  12. Visca...

    Visca... Member

    Sep 13, 2004
    ATL
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    I thought it was Erick as skipper.
     
  13. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    looking at the SC vs U highlights Bonnet has the captains armband
     
  14. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    well heres the situation

    10 Sporting Cristal 22 5 7 10 25 35 -10 22
    11 Total Clean 22 6 2 14 28 45 -17 20
    12 Coronel Bolognesi 22 4 7 11 22 36 -14 19

    we have gained al Ciego and Chorri so thats a plus

    he has said he wants new central defenders cause Alvarez, Anchante and Fassi do not convince him

    seems theres a slight possibility Vilchez could join us

    and also Cominges could leave us
     
  15. superfrantheman

    superfrantheman Red Card

    Nov 11, 2006
    Olvidados de Dios
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    con el chorri ya todo cambiara, chesu el chorri de vuelta, csm yo me voy a recogerlo al aeropuerto, elno es borracho, engreido, aniñado, ni transensual
     
  16. ROMERO879

    ROMERO879 Member

    Apr 28, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    What a shit torneo, absolute crap.
    All of these players have under-performed, it's pretty amazing that we didn't lose against AL and U. Cominges can go to la u, he's turned into an injury prone average Peruvian player.
     
  17. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    plus we have Damian Ismodes now, dont need Juanchi;)...never forgive Juan for screwing his carrear up:eek:

    Oblitas in Charge now

    wonder if he will go with 4 or 3 at the back

    gotta get the Rebosio/Villalta combo on the pitch, thats good enough for our tourney

    and we have to get a left back asap
     
  18. ROMERO879

    ROMERO879 Member

    Apr 28, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Absolutly.

    There's a chance Vilchez is coming back to Cristal?
     
  19. Guti™

    Guti™ Moderator

    Mar 6, 2005
    La Victoria
    Club:
    Alianza Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Very little chance.

    He wants to stay abroad.

    http://www.peru.com/futbol/AutoNoticias/FutbolPeruExterior/2007/06/10/DetalleNoticia90402.asp
     
  20. superfrantheman

    superfrantheman Red Card

    Nov 11, 2006
    Olvidados de Dios
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    no huh


    vilchez signed with puebla, i just heard it in el deportivo con eddie flechmannnnnnnnnn

    puebla is the team that alianza atleticom de sullana copy the uniform
     
  21. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    oh well, thats to bad we need a left back

    in peru i would go for Wence Fernandez

    would be sweet if we could line up Hidalgo, but with Chorri and Oblitas back, doubt we would have the money
     
  22. superfrantheman

    superfrantheman Red Card

    Nov 11, 2006
    Olvidados de Dios
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    wenceslao would be cool i SC, i also want leguizamon
     
  23. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    well it seems the only rebuilding we did was bring in a 6 month innactive Chorri and el Ciego

    most of the squad is still the same

    i wonder how Oblitas will line up with Chorri, Camello, Juanchi, Ismodes and Lobaton playing attacking mids
     
  24. superfrantheman

    superfrantheman Red Card

    Nov 11, 2006
    Olvidados de Dios
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    well the only option will be a 4-5-1

    ---------------torres-----------
    --lobaton---------------ismodes--
    ---------chorri-cominges----------

    -------orejuela/bonnet-------------

    and camello replacing prado, and lobaton

    and orejuela replacinçg cominges
     
  25. elperucho

    elperucho Member

    Mar 19, 2007
    Miami, Florida
    1 VOLANTE DE CONTESION??? ya pareces uribe:rolleyes:
     

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